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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 04:56pm Apr 29, 2002 EST (#1888
of 1901)
When the stakes are high, when answers really matter, they
have to be checked. At the level of language and logic, coherent
stories, true or false, sound alike and look alike, until they are
checked. Even with checking, usually, the best one can get is that
"these results are consistent with the facts" -- and getting that
far can be a good deal of work. But unless facts are checked, one
story, gramattically correct, at a given level of complexity, sounds
like another.
That ought not to be good enough on matters of life and death,
and huge expenditure, such as missile defense.
Currently, even in the news media, conventions stand
against checking. Often it is "comfortable." But it permits
fictions. And often enough, these fictions are lethal.
Yesterday, I wrote in MD1839 rshow55
4/28/02 5:48pm
". . . . For a while, I've been concerned about getting some of
my own situation established - MD1235 rshow55
4/10/02 2:26pm ... MD1236 rshow55
4/10/02 2:38pm MD1237 rshow55
4/10/02 6:37pm ... ...
"I've been asking "how to get some things things to closure?"
Moore could help, if he could be interested. I'll be trying to
contact him.
"If I can get some things about my background checked, well
enough to permit me to function - a lot seems possible, and
cooperative players seem to be around.
. . . .
Well, it is hard to get things checked. Here is an
approach to checking, on key questions, that doesn't depend on my
backgound at all, and doesn't depend on "trust" at all.
MD1238 rshow55
4/10/02 6:40pm
It includes key challenges, key circumstances, and key questions.
To answer those questions - which could be done in the open
literature -- and to do it to closure -- would be to do something
new, and to establish patterns that could be useful for peace, and
for other things, as well.
MD1239 rshow55
4/10/02 6:44pm
Nation states are now being asked to "trust" . Distrust is
safer - and we should arrange ourselves to accomodate it, when
things actually matter. People, and nations, should check
what actually matters.
lchic
- 09:41pm Apr 29, 2002 EST (#1889
of 1901)
Shield of David - oh lord we pray - shield us from the glistening
bulldust above !
almarst2020
- 10:34pm Apr 29, 2002 EST (#1890
of 1901)
shield_of_david
4/29/02 6:52pm ... eraserhead2
4/29/02 4:13pm
A split "personality"?;)
lchic
- 04:03am Apr 30, 2002 EST (#1891
of 1901)
re-incarnate - amen!
lchic
- 08:50am Apr 30, 2002 EST (#1892
of 1901)
Bio-terror cantabb
"Science in the News" 4/30/02 5:03am
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MAYdayPEACE : The world won't listen
May Day protesters are demanding an end to exploitation and
military aggression http://www.guardian.co.uk/mayday/story/0,7369,707704,00.html
lchic
- 09:39am Apr 30, 2002 EST (#1893
of 1901)
Electoral - AmericaLESSdemocratic - redistribution
Congressional redistricting How to rig an election http://www.economist.co.uk/world/na/displayStory.cfm?story_id=1099030
Weirdly shaped districts like these are signs that a crime has
been committed.
lchic
- 09:46am Apr 30, 2002 EST (#1894
of 1901)
Jews living on the Tunisian island of Djerba http://www.economist.co.uk/world/africa/displayStory.cfm?story_id=1103550
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