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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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almarst2020
- 03:58pm Apr 26, 2002 EST (#1800
of 1841)
2002 'warmest for 1,000 years' - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/04/26/nhot26.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/04/26/ixhome.html
It will be useful if MAZZAs of the world notice. And turn their
attention from SPACE TOURISM down to Earth.
If not all, at least some may want to return back, HOME;)
mazza9
- 04:11pm Apr 26, 2002 EST (#1801
of 1841) Louis Mazza
Almarst:
It's not about space tourism. There were utopian experiments in
the United States during the 19th Century. They failed. In two
instances their names live on in kitchen hardware. Oenida flatware
and Amana appliances.
Might a lunar colony, a LaGrange factory with attached living
space for workers, or a Space University, (yes my own little idea
which I pitch from time to time), be the ground upon which the new
seeds of cooperation and friendship among men might germinate? Will
this be the area where mankind can evolve and show the way for
everyone? If we can provide wealth through the production of
sufficient, non-polluting energy so that we can raise EVERYONE'S
standard of living, then maybe the well-being of Planet Earth can be
delivered.
I know, I know. I just a silly optimist but it beats hell out of
what we are experiencing today.
Space may be the final frontier and the salvation of our species.
I hope so.
LouMazza
lchic
- 04:25pm Apr 26, 2002 EST (#1802
of 1841) Mix a little GU.com with NYT.com - NET the wider
perspective!
Was it your space from-ear-to-ear that prompted academic
thinking mAzzA?
almarst2020
- 04:26pm Apr 26, 2002 EST (#1803
of 1841)
"Space may be the final frontier and the salvation of our
species. I hope so."
I really hope NOT. I may be silly, but I think for most of
milions of a sane people who live down here, there is still a lot of
life left to enjoy.
Newertheless, I wish you the best of your life-time UP THERE.
Let's each one to find it's place to feel comfortable.
almarst2020
- 04:28pm Apr 26, 2002 EST (#1804
of 1841)
The commander of U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf has told
senior Pentagon officers that a new war against Iraq would likely
take five divisions and 200,000 troops - http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020426-41274916.htm
No volunteer to be rejected;)
rshow55
- 04:30pm Apr 26, 2002 EST (#1805
of 1841)
We have some very down-to-earth problems.
The US military-industrial complex was significantly evolved by
World War II, and advanced a great deal during the Truman and
Eisenhower administrations. Eisenhower became very concerned, and
warned against it in his FAREWELL ADDRESS of January 17, 1961
http://www.geocities.com/~newgeneration/ikefw.htm
If we understood what has happened to us - and how many of the
values we teach have been intentionally, deeply, compromised -- the
United States would be a better place, and the whole world would be
a safer place. We wouldn't have to waste resources on fiascos like
the "missile defense" boondoggle -- there are better things we could
do.
Everything Eisenhower was worried about has happened - - and the
force goes well beyond the power of presidents. But presidents are
responsible . . . and some of the lessons of Enron http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/14/business/_ENRON-PRIMER.html
need to be more widely applied.
MD8-84 rshow55
3/2/02 9:42am ... MD292 rshow55
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4/23/02 11:35am ...
Some of the biggest problems are "simple" once one finally
understands some key truths, which may be distasteful to look at. In
The Great Divide http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/29/opinion/29KRUG.html
, Paul Krugman suggests that we're at "the ending of an era of
laxity." To some extent, in ways that are a credit to the United
States (and the New York Times) I think that's proven to be true.
But we've got a lot farther to go.
mazza9
- 04:38pm Apr 26, 2002 EST (#1806
of 1841) Louis Mazza
lchic:
I see disparaging remarks and making fun of my name continue.
Then there was this old Italian who was taking his citizenship
exam. In the geopgraphy portion of the oral exam he was asked where
Minneapolis was. His answer was "Upper US". He couldn't understand
why his teacher was so incensed.
So lchic, "Minneapolis"
LouMazza
almarst2020
- 07:23pm Apr 26, 2002 EST (#1807
of 1841)
"Minneapolis"
I wonder if his "teacher" new where the Italy is.
He would probably get an answer: "South of London"
;)
almarst2020
- 07:28pm Apr 26, 2002 EST (#1808
of 1841)
That's for real.
When I told one of the young computer programer just out of
college I am going on a tourist trip to Madrid, he told me: Sure.
It's in South America.
Not a funny story at all.
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