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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 07:40pm Apr 22, 2002 EST (#1675
of 1703)
almarst-2001
4/22/02 5:09pm
almarst: 1. How to distinct an attack from a commercial or
scientific lunch. Or an attack against someone else or even a
defensive counter-missile lunch during a boost?
During a boost, you really can't tell. Which makes
for some problems, no?
almarst: 2. What could prevent the wareheads to be loaded
and dropped from a satelites?
Nothing could prevent it -- and with good re-entry
controls, such warheads might be accurately placed. One of
many reasons why political controls, agreements, and
inspections are more promising than "trying to defend against
everything." Because n! increases very fast - and there's a lot of
"everything" out there -- too much to defend against.
almarst: 3. How to defend against submarine or
deep-continental lunches the Russia and China are perfectly capable
of?
Defense against subs is very difficult with
any reasonably forseeable ABM guidance system - - especially since
sub-launched missiles can be quite short range. It isn't much
distance between US coastal cities and the sea - - not so much
more than artillery range - or drone range.
Almarst: There is no doubt in my mind the MD is aimed
primarily against China and possibly Russia.
I think that in the minds of some "artsy" people, and
politicians, that may be true. Among the engineers, I believe that
the target has been, for a long, long time, only the US taxpayer.
That's the only realistic target they can hit - because, alas, there
are so few intelligent defenses.
rshow55
- 07:47pm Apr 22, 2002 EST (#1676
of 1703)
There's a good cartoon about hitting the US Treasury, the only
reasonable target for these systems, in an OpEd Advertorial of a
while back http://www.tompaine.com/op_ads/opad.cfm/ID/5241
In a better world, that Advertorial, and cited links, should sink
the program.
The MIT Journal pieces cited here show a lot. http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/postol0402.asp
How do we get facts accepted ?
On issues of missile defense, the question of fraud, and other
forms of systematic deception, aren't the only questions. But they
are questions that need to be adressed.
almarst-2001
- 07:58pm Apr 22, 2002 EST (#1677
of 1703)
Thank you, Robert.
Your answers confirm what I expected.
Deep down I still believe its not just am attempt to suck the
tax$ into the big black hall.
As I mentioned before, I can imagine the Pentagon's frustration
with the idea that 400bn military force may not be usable against a
country 10 times weaker militarely. They surely hope to establish an
unconditional dictatorial power over the World.
almarst-2001
- 08:06pm Apr 22, 2002 EST (#1678
of 1703)
Air Force Space Command landed its own four-star general
Friday, part of an effort to strengthen development of the nation's
military space operations. - http://www.gazette.com/stories/0420loc1.php?section=2
almarst-2001
- 08:09pm Apr 22, 2002 EST (#1679
of 1703)
'Rarely can one phrase have caused such confusion and
controversy', wrote BBC journalist Jon Leyne in early February,
after US senators started asking awkward questions about President
Bush's 'axis of evil' speech - http://www.spiked-online.com/Articles/00000002D443.htm
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