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lchic
- 10:12pm Apr 17, 2002 EST (#1445
of 1450) "They just started demolishing with the people
inside" Jenin
..... "You're gonna have some hostile people in your audience,"
he said. "Just let 'em hear the truth."
So I did. I talked about the cowardice of Secretary Powell, who
dawdled his way around the Mediterranean to give Sharon time to
finish destroying the Jenin refugee camp. I talked about the rotting
bodies of Jenin and the growing evidence that back in 1982 Sharon's
troops handed the survivors of the Sabra and Chatila massacre back
to their Phalangist tormentors to be killed. I said that Arafat was
never offered 96 per cent of the West Bank at Camp David. I advised
the 100 or so people in the room to read the Israeli journalist
Amira Haas' courageous reports in Haaretz. I talked about the
squalor of the Palestinian camp. I talked of suicide bombings as
"evil" but suggested that Israel would never have security until it
abided by UN Security Council Resolution 252; that Israel would
never have peace until it abandoned all of the West Bank, Gaza,
Golan and East Jerusalem. ...
'Lord Fisk'
lchic
- 10:14pm Apr 17, 2002 EST (#1446
of 1450) "They just started demolishing with the people
inside" Jenin
I was wondering yesterday why Rice and Powell didn't display
integrity, why they were acting 'uncle Toms' for the Deep South Bush
... I'm still wondering.
A critism of Powell is that he is not looking to International
law ... in International Law the Israelis should withdraw behind the
1948 line - this was why peace talks failed in '95 and are failing
now!
rshow55
- 10:17pm Apr 17, 2002 EST (#1447
of 1450)
There are encouraging signs. And I'm feeling more confident. All
the same, I feel constrained . . .
MD1229 rshow55
4/10/02 9:59am ... MD1230 rshow55
4/10/02 11:28am MD1240 rshow55
4/10/02 6:45pm
lchic
- 10:20pm Apr 17, 2002 EST (#1448
of 1450) "They just started demolishing with the people
inside" Jenin
NYT are 'moderating' all opinion op-ed section .. and just as i
started to 'make them think' over there ... i'll leave 'em to wallow
in their surreal world !
rshow55
- 10:21pm Apr 17, 2002 EST (#1449
of 1450)
When things are challenging and complex, there are times when the
truth is your only hope.
Without the truth to guide decisions, chances of fatal error
appoach 100% - under circumstances where, with true information as a
guide, clean solutions are there to be found.
For that reason, lies are dangerous. And press bias can be
terribly expensive.
out.
lchic
- 10:24pm Apr 17, 2002 EST (#1450
of 1450) "They just started demolishing with the people
inside" Jenin
From what FISK says, the BrianWynne Gut feeling of the American
people is more in line with truth and reality than the press would
want to believe. Therein is the value of the internet, the Americans
are involved in active discussions on the UK threads - where there
is democratic discussion and little 'censorship' - perhaps the
Statue of Liberty should be shipped back to France.
:)
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