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rshow55
- 01:22pm Apr 17, 2002 EST (#1413
of 1422)
Almarst , I wish the MD thread prior to March of this year
was still available -- a lot of what you said, a year ago,
seems remarkably on target now.
lchic
- 01:28pm Apr 17, 2002 EST (#1414
of 1422) "They just started demolishing with the people
inside" Jenin
The USA media aren't feeding out the fullest news, whereas
elsewhere people have a free press and get a more balanced input.
on alliances - here - http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/14/weekinreview/14MARQ.html
- this guy hasn't reasoned that nations are made up of their
constituents. The leader of a nation (excepting the US) has to look
to the view of that public.
Publics in general are not impressed with 'Bush and Terrorism'.
Terrorism wrt Palestine is a misnomer .. it's actually FREEDOM
FIGHTING by the oppressed. The Palestinians total their losses at
20,000 ... that's ten times the number of USA folk lost to 9/11 ...
(each of the dead represents a personal/family tragedy)
Other peoples' tragedies being 'bigger and longer' than 9/11
aren't acknowledged, even though funded by, the US!
The writer would be correct to assume that an alliance is thought
out policy .... whereas the whaco 'terrorism' charge is less
sustainable ... especially when 'freedom fighters' are called
'terrorists' when technically they are not.
lchic
- 01:30pm Apr 17, 2002 EST (#1415
of 1422) "They just started demolishing with the people
inside" Jenin
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almarst-2001
- 01:42pm Apr 17, 2002 EST (#1416
of 1422)
Without the shifting of funds, the government would have been
technically in default on the debt – which has never happened in the
country's history. - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1031-2002Apr17.html
It seems the current US administration course of single-handly
move and rule the planet may hit a fiscal celling rather soon.
How many people have heard and understood the real imlications of
the BIG-BOOM?
rshow55
- 01:47pm Apr 17, 2002 EST (#1417
of 1422)
People have to understand more clearly, more sympathetically, and
more carefully, why and how it is that people and groups become
willing to kill without mercy, and fight to the death.
Morality can be helpful, but can also obscure.
Is "murder of unknown, noncombattant members of an enemy
population for strategic purposes" regrettable and
reprehensible? Most would say so.
Is one form of it more regrettable or reprehensible than another
- for like numbers of dead, in similar classifications?
If we agreed, for the purposes of discussion, that the answer to
the question above is no - - a great deal would clarify.
Another question --
"Is killing where you risk your life worse
if the risk of your own death is 100%? Worse from a moral point of
view?
Why exactly?
almarst-2001
- 02:47pm Apr 17, 2002 EST (#1418
of 1422)
Is "murder of unknown, noncombattant members of an enemy
population for strategic purposes" regrettable and reprehensible?
Most would say so.
Not according to what we know about strategic bombing compains
conducted by Britain and US during and after WWII.
It was never so easy as it is now to kill millions without
leaving your char. Once the "enemy" is depicted as "inhumane" and
you don't see the victims from 30000ft above.
"Is killing where you risk your life worse if the risk of your
own death is 100%? Worse from a moral point of view?"
One does not have to be a great moralist to understand the
difference between cold-blooded murder from a comfort of your char
and ultimate act of desperation. Even if induced by someone who is
not taking the actual risk.
almarst-2001
- 03:09pm Apr 17, 2002 EST (#1419
of 1422)
On Israel-Palestinian tragedy.
As a Jewish who lived and served in Israel, it is very hard for
me to take a balanced stand.
Morover, I greatly despise the "jewish patriots" demonstrating on
the streets of America and pushing for particular solutions they
have no stake or risk in. This is ultimatly immoral.
The situation in the Israel is very difficalt to solve. That why
it was so annoying and insulting for me to read some of the works of
Thomas Friedman a year ago on the subject. One have to be totaly
mindless and blind or pretend to be such, to produce such a
journalistic garbage.
The Israel can't risk to have an antagonistic enemy state
established along its borders so close to its major population
centers. Figting for the scare water and land resources. Unforgiving
the unsolved refugies problem. The very poor and underdeveloped
state eying with envy the florishing Israel.
The Palestinians can't wait forever, while the problems above
just become worst and worst with each new settlement on their
territory. assuming the moral support of the wast majority of the
World, except the US. The perfect time bomb.
The Israel can't solve the problem in a way the US or many
"civilized" nations of the West could - using overhelming military
force and total destruction and annihilation of large part of the
population. I am pretty sure the US would not hesitate on doing just
that. In doing so, the Jewish state will eliminate its legitimacy in
its own eyes. Will end be a trully Jewish.
What is particularely appaling to me is the fact that so many
prominent Jewish leaders in US and Europe supported the bombing of
Serbia in asimilar circumstances. Even while Serbs tryed to defend
their own native territory and population suffered so much from
hands of NAZI Croats and Albanians in a recent past.
Could it overhelm even the GOD's patience with Jewish
Establishement, Americans and Europeans?
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