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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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mazza9
- 10:12pm Apr 11, 2002 EST (#1278
of 1283) Louis Mazza
The lies regarding the so called Palestinian state have been
propogated like just so much propoganda. The UN resolution that
established the state of Israel has been ignored. The Arab world has
fought and lost 4 wars in the last 50 years.
So now the Arabs resort to aiming suicidal hatemongers at the
Jewish state.The Arabs have transformed the sayings of Jesus from,
"The meek shall inherit the world" to "The weak shall blow up
everyone and take over the world."
If all the Palestinians would promise, I say let's give them all
the C-4 they need to enter paradise. Say, Do Lesbian freedom
fighters get their quota of virgins?
The United States is a country which honors the rule of law. Yes
we're imperfect but at least we try to have rules and follow them.
There is NO justification for crashing civilian airliners
into the WTC nor blowing up people at a religious setting, (the
Seder massacre). We Americans will hoot and holler over a blown
football call or strike or ball in a baseball game. But guess what?
We do have referees, umpires and judges.
Your value system and soul is warped and black. Your postings
show a degree of hate for your fellow man that is frightening. Why
are you anti semetic? Why are you so bitter, blighted and bellicose?
If the world is so bad why don't you strap on some C-4 and come
looking for me? You're pathetic. Have a nice night!!
LouMazza
lchic
- 01:41am Apr 12, 2002 EST (#1279
of 1283)
mAzzA i'm familiar with 10-4, not C-4, over and out :)
Powell: http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/biog/1349.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1924000/1924706.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1553000/1553125.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1920000/1920183.stm Interesting
program here telling of the differences between the EU perspective
of Palestine and the more distant (JewishLobbyNY) American mode: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/analysis.shtml
MIDDLE EAST - DIFFERING VIEWS
The crisis in the Middle East has highlighted differences
between the American and European views of the conflict.
The United States, with its large and influential Jewish
community, has long been a strong supporter of Israel and
sympathises with its right to self-defense. Europe, geographically
closer and with longer historical ties to the middle East, was
quicker to demand that Israel withdraw its forces.
The conflict is also portrayed in very different ways by the
American and European media. In Analysis, Belinda Rhodes examines
where these different views come from and asks whether Europe and
America will be able to work together in trying to restart the
peace process.
lchic
- 01:45am Apr 12, 2002 EST (#1280
of 1283)
Palestinian Saga 1930-2002
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=282454
gisterme
- 03:00am Apr 12, 2002 EST (#1281
of 1283)
rshow55
4/10/02 6:40pm
"...QUESTIONS: :
" How technically challenging are the missile defense programs
that have been set out in public (laser and midcourse interception )
in terms of what is known, and what has been achieved, in the open
engineering and scientific literature?..."
Wow, Robert. That question doesn't make much sense, but let me
try. Let's see...allow me to remove some of the word salad that's
not making sense to try to get to the question you're trying to ask:
How technically challenging are known missile defense programs in
terms of what is known, and what has been achieved, in the open
engineering and scientific literature.
Hmmm. That's shorter but still doesn't make much sense. I think
you're asking "how difficult" is missile defense given known
technical data. That's an unanswerable question. "How much?" is a
request for a quantity. What would the units be? That question is
simply nonsense as asked. I'm not being evasive here but I
won't waste my time trying to answer the question as asked. What I
will say is this:
Midcourse interception system - It's working through its test
program now. It has been able to intercept four out of six incoming
targets. How difficult is that? I'd say very difficult out obviously
it is doable and so there are no laws of physics being violated.
Airborne Laser - There are tons of open literature about lasers
in general and how powerful they are, tons of open literature about
adaptive optics, tons of open literature about angular resolution of
telescopes and accuracy of their pointing mechanisms in non-ABL
applications like the Hubble Space Telescope that, applied to the
ABL as-is would be good enough. We've already been through all this,
Robert. I've posted the links. If you hadn't ignored them (evaded
response) you wouldn't be asking this question.
All the pieces-parts needed for integration into the ABL system
are there in the open literature. You've been shown at least what
I've posted, had it held up in your face, and you're still in
denial. Skepticism comes naturally to many folks before they've seen
seen a thing, but I have to admit that you're unique in that you
deny things can work even after you've been shown. Once again, I'd
suggest you join the Flat Earth Society.
"...Are the objectives for these specific kinds of systems
compatible with the laws of physics?..."
You'd know that they are if you bothered to check the open
literature. Obviously the individual parts couldn't work prior to
integration if they violated any laws of physics.
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