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rshow55
- 11:28am Apr 10, 2002 EST (#1231
of 1237)
For many of the problems that stump people now -- for many
of the things where we say "if only we could do the obvious" - and
then do much worse -- there are problems of simultenaity,
complexity, and human nature of similar forms.
For instance, if you want to think through, in detail, what would
be required for real, solid, sustainable peace in the Middle East --
I think asking the following question is useful in a number of ways.
How would you make a good, persuasive, interesting
movie about achieving real peace between the Palestinians
and the Israelis?
We know how complex making movies is -- and people
actually make them.
When political leaders approach problems that are more important,
and basically harder, these days - the approaches are very often
stumped because patterns of socio-technical function are much less
advanced than movie-making takes.
That's true of technical problems, too. For two reasons, at
least:
1. Movies are at roughly the level of
complexity actually involved.
and
2. Movies have to make emotional and aesthetic
sense and everything else people do that works well has to make
emotional and aesthetic sense, too.
mazza9
- 12:06pm Apr 10, 2002 EST (#1232
of 1237) Louis Mazza
RShow55:
The L-5 Society, now the National Space Society has been
advocating Dr. O'Neil's view of space developement since the mid
70s. Why don't you join us and bring your space advocacy to a place
where your voice might be heard. Tom Hanks is on the Board of
Directors of NSS and he did produce the HBO series "From the Earth
to the Moon." Might try to get his ear for this movie project.
LouMazza
Oh lchic you need not kneel to show abeyance. A cute curtsy will
do!!!!
manjumicha2001
- 01:21pm Apr 10, 2002 EST (#1233
of 1237)
rshow:
What's your take on this report on China's laser-induced fusion
studies?
To quote:
In an area large as a football ground, the newly developed
"Shenguang (magic rays) II" super laser, consists of over hundred
optical apparatus, is able to send out gigantic energy equals to
that of global electricity network in a spark of one billionth
second, creating a physical phenomenon which is likely to be found
only at the center of a nuclear explosion, the rim of black hole or
inside a star. Situated at theShanghai Institute of Optics and Fine
Mechanics, Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS), the super laser, by
sending out tremendous energy in a very short time, could give out
extreme pressure and high temperature to trigger off fusion
reaction.
By providing extreme physical conditions the laser is to be used
in scientific experiments, and is of great significance to basic
researches, hi-tech application and development of new technology
for national defense.
"Shenguang" is of promising prospect, expert says, for in nuclear
fusion lies the hope of clean energy in future years. By the middle
of this century scientists, as expected, could use laser-produced
fusion to turn rich deuterium and tritium in seawater into great and
endless energy. Completion of "Shenguang II" marked a step forward
made by China towards the getting of energy from seawater.
rshow55
- 01:53pm Apr 10, 2002 EST (#1234
of 1237)
manjumicha2001
4/10/02 1:21pm - - the science journalism you quote may not be
exact on all the facts - - and the laser fusion experiments being
touted may not work any better than ours - - the project sounds much
the same as the work the US is doing.
The "cleanliness" of fusion as an energy source is pretty
questionable -- radiation is a big problem.
Me, I'd rather work with fusion generated energy from the sun - -
a safe distance away from us.
Mazza , thanks for your suggestion. I'm taking it
seriously, will respond soon. The suggestion is a good one - and I
may take it - but it doesn't solve the main problem I've been
worrying about, for a while.
But maybe things are getting closer.
I wrote an expository poem on damped and undamped exponential
functions, a while back.
Thought I'd post it here -- it has something to do with
"connecting the dots" - getting things done -- and how hopes can be
stopped , as well.
Chain Breakers http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/618
Just musing -- if I put on a suit, shined my shoes, and walked
into the State Department - asking for permission to see some people
-- what do you think might happen?
I'd like to make a pitch to the Russian Embassy, and some other
places, as well.
gisterme
- 02:06pm Apr 10, 2002 EST (#1235
of 1237)
rshow55
3/28/02 5:17pm
"...Now, there sometimes seems to be an almost unrestricted
"freedom to lie." -- and "freedom to reject checking."..."
Would these be the assumptions that you'd use to rationalize
doing both so frequently yourself, Robert? If so, your statement
makes you king of "Do as I say, not as I do.". Fortunately, people
in general are not so stupid as you apparently assume, Robert. Even
a fool couldn't fail to notice that your "kingdom" is very
sparsly populated...
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