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lchic
- 11:02pm Apr 8, 2002 EST (#1201
of 1228)
Looking at the maps below - topographically Palestine seems to
have had a 'bad' deal in the 1948 cut-up ... in the sense that it
has two dislocated land areas ... how was this justified? Back to
the drawing board !?!!
Palestine - map http://www.pcbs.org/english/pal_map.htm http://www.geographic.org/maps/new1/west_bank_maps.html
http://www.geographic.org/maps/new1/gaza_strip_maps.html
Israel - map http://www.geographic.org/maps/new1/israel_maps.html
lchic
- 11:06pm Apr 8, 2002 EST (#1202
of 1228)
The only sensible resolution is to take the whole area of the
Middle East and make it a federation with modern laws and standards
- then a common objective could be
! "" P R O G R E S S "" !
rshow55
- 11:10pm Apr 8, 2002 EST (#1203
of 1228)
Maybe we can't be quite that "sensible." But we can do a lot
better than people are doing now.
MD585 rshow55
3/15/02 5:36pm ... MD604 rshow55
3/16/02 11:51am
In "Beauty" http://www.everreader.com/beauty.htm
Mark Anderson quotes Heisenberg's definition of beauty in the exact
sciences:
" Beauty is the proper conformity of the parts to
one another and to the whole."
We need solutions that fit in the complex world we
actually live in. It helps to remember that satisfactory, stable
solutions always have to satisfy basic human needs, and power
relationships. MD667 rshow55
3/18/02 11:13am When we remember this, we classify a lot of
nonsensical "solutions" and posturing out of existence, and workable
answers stand out.
Me, I'm hopeful.
. . . .
I'm also respectful of the very hard work Friedman and
other on the NYT staff have done for peace in the last few weeks and
months.
Biased as they may be from some perspectives -- still fine work.
A lot of Arabs and Israelis know it, too.
lchic
- 11:12pm Apr 8, 2002 EST (#1204
of 1228)
If the USA and Israel are as interwined as the ME issue has shown
why don't we just call them the IUSA - and be done!
lchic
- 11:15pm Apr 8, 2002 EST (#1205
of 1228)
Showalter - trust you haven't lost your sense of humour regarding
the humoristic
:)
rshow55
- 11:16pm Apr 8, 2002 EST (#1206
of 1228)
The rest of the world needs to organize -- and it is happening.
People are becoming much more attuned to the costs and agonies of
war.
In Lifelines to the Future http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/07/opinion/07FRIE.html
Friedman says:
" This is the most polarizing moment I've ever
experienced. The volcanic rage on both sides — intensified by the
live TV coverage from the West Bank and the ability of the
Internet to transmit people's immediate reactions — is terrifying,
and it is spilling, like lava, out of the Middle East into Europe
and beyond.
People are wrenched. Upset. High time!
* * * * *
People are thinking hard about difficult, emotionally
conflicted, but soluble problems. We may get some workable
solutions.
Out.
rshow55
- 11:21pm Apr 8, 2002 EST (#1207
of 1228)
lchic
4/8/02 11:15pm . . . Nope. The NYT sure is high toned - -
sometimes.
But every once in a while, they'll print something that will
raise a cackle --
Did you hear the one about the Stanford dean?
I told it, last year, on this thread, and got a really
angry reaction - -
Out.
rshow55
- 11:28pm Apr 8, 2002 EST (#1208
of 1228)
Has anyone kept score on the number of nation states "strongly
allied" to the United States - on a month-by-month basis -- since
the Bush inauguration? As I recall, Safire today rated our "strong
allies" at only one nation - Britian -- and that one shaky.
It seems to me that we're witnessing a historical
"achievement."
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