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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

rshowalter - 06:09pm Sep 29, 2001 EST (#9923 of 9956)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

And they're afraid to question our other military policies, too. So that the American people, who are nice people in very many other ways, acquiesce in some gruesome behavior that was probably not justified during the cold war, and is certianly not justified now.

rshowalter - 06:12pm Sep 29, 2001 EST (#9924 of 9956)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Some of the persuasive force is going to have to happen from outside the United States, for reasons I referred to in MD9902 rshowalter 9/29/01 11:07am . .

Without some pressure, and information flows, from the outside, how on earth is the change needed supposed to happen?

rshowalter - 06:27pm Sep 29, 2001 EST (#9925 of 9956)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

We need to know what has been done.
MD7599 rshowalt 7/30/01 7:31am

MD6853 rshowalter 7/10/01 3:49pm ... MD6854 rshowalter 7/10/01 4:00pm
MD6856 rshowalter 7/10/01 4:03pm

almarst-2001 - 07:33pm Sep 29, 2001 EST (#9926 of 9956)

The "ways" of "ascending" Western "civilization":

"Franklin D. Roosevelt's fortune was inherited from his maternal grandfather Warren Delano. In 1830 he was a senior partner of Russell & Company. It was their merchant fleet which carried Sassoon's opium to China and returned with tea." - http://www.stormfront.org/truth_at_last/archives/sassoon.htm

almarst-2001 - 07:36pm Sep 29, 2001 EST (#9927 of 9956)

And some more for "desert":

The C.I.A. & Drugs - http://ciadrugs.homestead.com/files/index.html

almarst-2001 - 07:42pm Sep 29, 2001 EST (#9928 of 9956)

And, who knows, may be this: Drug Super-Kingpin George Bush? - http://www.larouchepub.com/pr/1996/bush_press_conf.html

almarst-2001 - 07:46pm Sep 29, 2001 EST (#9929 of 9956)

And some hope: Thousands of anti-war protesters march in Washington, San Francisco - http://asia.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/world/article.html?s=asia/headlines/010930/world/afp/Thousands_of_anti-war_protesters_march_in_Washington__San_Francisco.html

rshowalter - 07:47pm Sep 29, 2001 EST (#9930 of 9956)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Lot of good about the US, anyway, almarst . Don't have to deny any ugliness at all to say that. Nor is there much contradiction between the good and the bad parts. The bad parts could be cleaned up with little or no loss to the good.

We had an interchange, discussed and linked in MD7389 rshowalter 7/24/01 8:18pm

and it included an "exercise in communication" that I felt might be of use for Putin's staff.
MD1410-1415 rshowalter 3/23/01 7:30pm

If Putin's staff was capable of working through such an exercise, some things might clarify, and become possible, that are not clear and not possible today.

rshowalter - 07:50pm Sep 29, 2001 EST (#9931 of 9956)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

almarst-2001 9/29/01 7:46pm . . . I'm not an anti-war protester, myself, though I respect them.

But for some basic changes, you need to be able to change the thinking of

"the average reader of THE NEW YORK TIMES . . .

and then (and this is harder) the thinking of less elite groups, including

"the average reader of The National Inquirer"

rshowalter - 07:54pm Sep 29, 2001 EST (#9932 of 9956)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

MD9834-38 rshowalter 9/24/01 12:05pm

Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs - - as a source of constraint. And how, with knowledge of enough constraints there is hope of finding solutions that can actually work.

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