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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 10:28am Sep 29, 2001 EST (#9900
of 9910) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Military decisions are serious , and I'd like to quote a
poem, not titled "Afghanistan" - - but titled in a way that may
connect to circumstances facing the US, and the world. It was
written in 1917, but I believe it applies today, and should
remembered always, when people think of military action, and what
"ordinary bureacratic evasion and bungling" can do, when it counts.
Mesopotamia by Rudyard Kipling , . . . . 1917
They shall not return to us, the resolute, the young, ... The
eager and whole-hearted whom we gave: But the men who left them
thriftily to die in their own dung, ... Shall they come with
years and honour to the grave?
They shall not return to us; the strong men coldly slain ...
In sight of help denied from day to day: But the men who edged
their agonies and chid them in their pain, ...Are they too
strong and wise to put away?
Our dead shall not return to us while Day and Night divide--
...Never while the bars of sunset hold. But the idle-minded
overlings who quibbled while they died, ...Shall they thrust for
high employments as of old?
Shall we only threaten and be angry for an hour: ...When the
storm is ended shall we find How softly but how swiftly they
have sidled back to power ...By the favour and contrivance of
their kind?
Even while they soothe us, while they promise large amends,
...Even while they make a show of fear, Do they call upon
their debtors, and take counsel with their friends, ...To
conform and re-establish each career?
Their lives cannot repay us--their death could not undo--
...The shame that they have laid upon our race. But the
slothfulness that wasted and the arrogance that slew, ...Shall
we leave it unabated in its place?
In real military circumstances, right answers matter and
lies, mental laziness, and evasions are dangerous.
kangdawei
- 11:05am Sep 29, 2001 EST (#9901
of 9910)
rsho, you've certainly done a great job of convincing
yourself that it "won't work", though you are careful
to ignore Rumsfeld's point about satellite technology looking
impossible in the 60s and growing to become mundane today.
We can (and will) argue the workability in the coming months. I'd
like to share a little diversionary bit of interesting trivia
though, that most
people in the USA think we already have a missle
defense system:
Although missile defense is the single most
important component of national security policy in the nuclear
age, there is amazing ignorance on the current state of our
defense. Indeed, prior to the election of George W. Bush, 74% of
Americans believed the United States possessed a national missile
defense. Since the election, and the publicity the issue received
from the campaign, that number is down to about 58%. Still, all in
all, an amazing statistic if you consider that over half of the
American people believe the United States possesses a missile
defense when in fact not a single, solitary missile can be
stopped.
The confusion is understandable. In a democratic republic like
ours it is expected that matters of national security will be
examined and explained by the president and members of Congress.
Citizens assume that their representatives will be well-informed
about such matters having access to the best military and
political intelligence in the country. After all, they heard from
President Reagan that he was going to build a national missile
defense, and they assumed he did. Their representatives say little
about the threat to the United States from missile attack and the
absence of a defense.
rshowalter
- 11:07am Sep 29, 2001 EST (#9902
of 9910) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
There are many times where checking, and action based on
verifiable facts, is our only hope. And plenty hopeful.
There are plenty of examples involved with missile defense. We
have things that we can do, but we need to understand that
there are some things we can't possibly do at all, or even think
about doing.
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rshowalter
- 11:11am Sep 29, 2001 EST (#9903
of 9910) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
kangdawei
9/29/01 11:05am . . that's certainly an important point.
People have plenty of reason to be concerned about the issues
that motivate missile defense.
We need to find answers. Ones that can work.
If people were as afraid as they should be about these things - -
as afraid as a lot of the professionals are, or as concerned as I am
- - we might find solutions.
Maybe "right under our noses."
The current "war on terrorism" might have a lot to teach us,
about what has to be done.
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