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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 06:15pm Sep 23, 2001 EST (#9761
of 9764) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
OUR FATHERS OF OLD by Rudyard Kipling
Excellent herbs had our fathers of old - Excellent herbs to
ease their pain - Alexanders and Marigold, Eyebright, Orris,
and Elecampane - Basil, Rocket, Valerian, Rue, (Almost
singing themselves they run) Vervain, Dittany, Call-me-to-you-
Cowslip, Meliot, Rose of the Sun. Anything green that grew
out of the mould Was an excellent herb to our fathers of old.
Wonderful tales had our fathers of old, Wonderful tales
of the herbs and the stars - The Sun was Lord of the Marigold,
Basil and Rocket belonged to Mars. Pat as a sum in division
it goes - (Every herb had a planet bespoke) - Who but Venus
would govern the Rose? Who but Jupiter own the Oak? Simply
and gravely the facts are told In the wonderful books of our
fathers of old.
Wonderful little, when all is said,
Wonderful little our fathers knew. Half of their remedies
cured you dead - Most of their teaching was quite untrue -
"Look at the stars when a patient is ill. (Dirt has nothing
to do with disease), Bleed and blister as much as you will,
Blister and bleed as oft as you please," Whence enormous and
manifold Errors were made by our fathers of old.
Yet
when sickness was sore in the land, And neither planets nor
herbs assuaged, They took their lives in their lancet-hand
And oh, what a wonderful war they waged! Yes, when the
crosses were chalked on the door - (Yes, when the terrible
dead-cart rolled!) Excellent courage our fathers bore -
Excellent heart had our fathers of old. None too learned,
but nobly bold Into the fight went our fathers of old.
If it be certain, as Galen says - And sage Hippocrates
holds as much - "That those afflicted with doubts and dismays
Are mightily helped by a dead man's touch," Then, be good to
us, stars above! Then be good to us, herbs below! We are
afflicted by what we can prove. We are distracted by what we
know. So - ah so! Down from your heaven or up from your
mould Send us the hearts of our fathers of old.
rshowalter
- 06:17pm Sep 23, 2001 EST (#9762
of 9764) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The conceptual structure, the paradigm of "our fathers of
old" was an interconnected, mutually reinforcing, statistically
derived conceptual structure.
Our conceptual structures are also interconnected, mutually
reinforcing, statistically derived conceptual structures.
That is how human conceptual structures always are, in cultures
and in individual heads.
Sometimes, for compelling practical reasons, minds have to be
changed. Patterns of ideas have to be contested. When this is
necessary, the change can only occur when key facts are made
clear, that undermine the certainties of the conceptual structures.
After that, there is a lot of talking, and thinking, and
adjusting, left to do - - and this is rethinking that only the
people involved can possibly do - - because it happens in their
culture, and happens in their own heads.
But the adjustment has no chance at all of occurring until
decisive facts are established, with enough credibility that
minds face up to the need for change.
Unless, when stakes are high enough, it is in an operational
sense morally forcing to get facts checked, "paradigm
conflicts" of this kind may be insoluble, or prohibitively expensive
in terms of time and other costs.
For decent resolution for a number of problems, we have to change
minds - - and get "common ground" enough so that certain kinds of
damaging mistakes and conflicts can be avoided. To some degree,
we'll have to consider change in our own minds. We'll have to
interact so that others change their minds in some ways, too.
rshowalter
- 06:23pm Sep 23, 2001 EST (#9763
of 9764) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I'm trying to get the intellectual message about how soluble
current problems are set out in a way that is accessable without
much math. That fits widely held experience. I'm trying to figure
out how to get people to investigate the ideas involved, and learn
them well enough to get the confidence action takes.
It is taking me a while, but I think it will be clear, and that
the things suggested will be practical, hopeful, and workably
simple.
It would be an easier thing for me to do, without formality, if
more people shared an experience that has been one of the formative
experiences of my own life - - the experience of searching at the
Patent Office, and working with the data structures the Patent
System has evolved.
Sorry to be slow. I'm keeping at it.
rshowalter
- 06:25pm Sep 23, 2001 EST (#9764
of 9764) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I don't mean to stand against some fighting -- sometimes it is
necessary. I think some military action, or police action, is
necessary in this case.
But if fighting is our only option - - things will be more
expensive, dangerous, and ugly than they need to be.
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