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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 05:05pm Sep 22, 2001 EST (#9687
of 9706) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
And we're descended from hunting animals who hunted in a certain,
very special way.
Teams of weak, physically vulnerable animals, very scared,
working together in teams following leaders, and working
based on ideas of "honor" .
rshowalter
- 05:07pm Sep 22, 2001 EST (#9688
of 9706) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
As animals go, we are very brave. And have a tremendous
tolerance for pain. And we will stand and die for our ideas.
Or kill "outsiders" who dispute them.
rshowalter
- 05:09pm Sep 22, 2001 EST (#9689
of 9706) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
It is very easy to get different "teams" of these hunting
apes into explosively uncontrolled, lethal fights.
Hard to stop it from happening, in fact.
lunarchick
- 05:10pm Sep 22, 2001 EST (#9690
of 9706) lunarchick@www.com
Mary
in Moscow ... it's snowing ... and her perfect world is holistically
and spherically contained.
lunarchick
- 05:11pm Sep 22, 2001 EST (#9691
of 9706) lunarchick@www.com
I'm sure Mary knew how to contain the 'Alpha' in male.
rshowalter
- 05:12pm Sep 22, 2001 EST (#9692
of 9706) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Quite often, these fights involve territories, and "sensible
animal things." But before things get really lethal, they involve
"ideas." And an essential, human idea, is that "others" - - if they
are "threatening" at all - - are to be feared, and excluded, and if
necessary, killed.
It is easy to get "different" teams to feel morally "quite
comfortable" killing each other. The Japanese knew how to do it, the
Germans knew how to do it, the Chinese and Russians know how to do
it, and we know how to do it, too.
rshowalter
- 05:13pm Sep 22, 2001 EST (#9693
of 9706) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
And, for a lot of reasons, deterrance is unstable
with human animals.
Explosive fights are entirely natural. It is avoiding them that
takes care and thought.
lunarchick
- 05:17pm Sep 22, 2001 EST (#9694
of 9706) lunarchick@www.com
Mary would try to look for the cause of the problem, try and sort
it, separate the parties. Then from the Malsow heirarchy she'd find
them appropriate things to do, be that basic building .. or flying a
kite into the higher realms of actualisation.
rshowalter
- 05:19pm Sep 22, 2001 EST (#9695
of 9706) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
A really big problem is how painful and threatening
it can be for people to have to change the connections in their
minds . It is painful, it is hard, sometimes it may be impossible -
- and a human being will fight to protect the structure of
ideas in his head.
Whole groups will band together and will fight for ideas -- ideas
that may be ridiculously wrong, from a distance. But the fighting is
very real, and can easily be to the death.
lunarchick
- 05:22pm Sep 22, 2001 EST (#9696
of 9706) lunarchick@www.com
Mary and Walt would both have vision. Vision - the longer term
projectile helps with goals.
The Vision of man may be written into the DNA and life, it's
seven stages, be the steps of attainment.
Both Mary and Walt nurtured needs on the lower wrungs of Maslow
.. yet .. the happy ending, the big picture .. that fitted into the
Visionary Statement.
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