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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 05:35pm Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9480
of 9494) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD8740 rshowalter
9/10/01 12:56pm
I believe that Dawn and I are delivering "good news." Which
productive professionals, after hard work, are expected to do. The
good news (and warnings) includes these things:
Some issues involving the interface between
physical modeling and math.
New techniques and insights that make it possible
to "talk to the Russians" at a level that wasn't possible before,
and to adress, define, and focus problems more than before. So
that people have a chance of solving problems that were insoluble
before, that can now be solved by hard work.
Explanations of how to address paradigm conflict ,
a very serous problem
The importance of understanding details if "the
golden rule" is to be practical and operational, especially under
difficult circumstances.
and
A basic insight about how people function in
groups, set out in the first pages of Mankind's Inhumanity to
Man and Woman - As natural as human goodness? http://talk.guardianunlimited.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b085/0
that I believe is essential if people are to more effectively
adress problems of complex cooperation, and the avoidance of
explosive fights.
ledzeppelin
- 05:35pm Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9481
of 9494)
lunarchick - #9473 "rather he packages and gets paid for
self-comment" We can not blame him for doing it for loot?
lunarchick
- 05:35pm Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9482
of 9494) lunarchick@www.com
Wrong time and place for self-depreciation :) rshowalter
9/19/01 5:30pm
lunarchick
- 05:40pm Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9483
of 9494) lunarchick@www.com
Alan Jones (Oz) is a professional journalist commentator - seems
most often a right winger - here backed by big buisness.
The best Oz station is public : http://www.abc.net.au/newsradio/
rshowalter
- 05:42pm Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9484
of 9494) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I know a lot of this seems repetitive. It is, necessarily. An
absolutely fundamental fact is that to get ideas focused well enough
for action takes a lot of crossreferencing, and
crosschecking - - and somehow people "form" connected idea systems
out of context.
You can't expect enemies, or people from very different worlds,
to sort out their differences, well enough to keep out of each
others' way, and even cooperate, with radically less talking
than people who work together need to sort out their relationships.
You may not need an unreasonable amount of talk. But it takes
a lot of talking.
When people interact successfully, there is a lot of talk, while
they're getting ready, if you count words (people have, and word
counts are huge). People need this talk.
Want to ASSURE misunderstandings between groups - - enough so
that they cannot really cooperate, except in very minimal ways?
Restrict conversation.
The world is full of such restrictions, and we need less of them.
Enough less so that we have fewer and weaker "reasons" to kill
each other.
That's not such a high ideal. Arranging it, with current
technical capacities, ought not to be beyond the wit of man.
rshowalter
- 05:44pm Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9485
of 9494) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Dawn had a very good idea - - a "thumbnail" summary of the Cold
War. Let me find something that's a start . . .
lunarchick
- 05:45pm Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9486
of 9494) lunarchick@www.com
Then, Showalter, it logically follows that most Americans haven't
a clue wrt the foreign policy of the USA in the second half of C20.
From what i see of the American Media they live most often within
their nests .. rarely looking outwards. A population of 250m makes
losts of home-news ... why question foreign policy.
lunarchick
- 05:48pm Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9487
of 9494) lunarchick@www.com
Start with an ice block - throw in some barbed wire :)
rshowalter
- 05:52pm Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9488
of 9494) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Americans are "crazy" and "criminal" in some important ways - -
in their "ignorance" of foreign policy.
They easily accept leaders "who make Machiavelli seem like one of
the angels of mercy."
And the consequences are wrenchingly bad, but fixable.
It is important that the become less ignorant. People in
other nation states have a big stake in this.
To get some key points across, it is going to take some staffing.
Not so much, maybe, but some.
Let me find a story that I wish a lot of people would read - -
even if they would want to reject what was in it.
lunarchick
- 05:52pm Sep 19, 2001 EST (#9489
of 9494) lunarchick@www.com
CONDI - giving a news conference http://www.abc.net.au/newsradio/
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