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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 08:21pm Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9412
of 9420) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I'm reading, too. And trying to think some things through.
I'll say this. The material in the Special Section: NAZI WAR
CRIMINALS IN BRITIAN http://www.guardian.co.uk/nazis/
should give pause to people who think the world has to stop
everything to give us justice.
Justice is a high value. We need more of it.
But it needs to be balanced, not selective.
Thinking about the way the NAZIs have been coddled, in the US,
UK, and elsewhere - - it doesn't make Bin Laden look like a saint.
But it does give one pause.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
But we can't forget the wrongs, either.
We need more right answers, intellectually and morally.
We need MORE justice. For that to work, we can't be
immune.
rshowalter
- 08:40pm Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9413
of 9420) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Deterrance, and reasonable balances, don't have to be
nuclear. And with sensible arrangements, we don't need
unworkable stunts like "missile defense" either. But we do
need deterrance, that makes practical sense. Along with ways to
please each other, not just hurt each other, if our interactions are
to be at all sophisticated. It isn't, however, necessary for us to
like each other, or agree with each other, about too much.
MD4004 rshowalter
5/16/01 8:19pm ... MD4006 rshowalter
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5/16/01 8:32pm
MD4040 gisterme
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lunarchick
- 08:43pm Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9414
of 9420) lunarchick@www.com
Parry's
book
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Culturally attired muslim women in Australia aren't keen to
venture out in public. As in the US there have been incidents! The
head scarf is seen to represent 'Other' culture .. and how much
'other' culture can our pluralistic society absorb?
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One reason why there's resentment re MidEast culture has been a
spate of gang rapes against Australian girls. (See similar reported
in the Netherlands Media) The law in Australia has now been
adjusted. Any one taking part in a gang rape can face a penalty of
LIFE imprisonment. They are after all destroying the life of their
victim.
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The improved penatly - will it counter balance the 'pressure' on
immature_minded_male individuals in gangs to fully participate in
evil ?
lunarchick
- 09:56pm Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9415
of 9420) lunarchick@www.com
Nauru ... How
will the world's smallest island country cope with an Afghan refugee
camp on their island? What's if the refugees refuse to get off the
boat? How much is all this costing?
Nauruans say they will be looking over the wire with envy, as the
three square meals per day are served up!
rshowalter
- 09:58pm Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9416
of 9420) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
On issues of military and nuclear balances, "no solution as
stated:" ... We need a reframing: MD8300-3 rshowalter
9/1/01 3:52pm
American institutional and intellectual traditions, admirable in
many ways, but shaped by the Cold War, may be standing in the way of
safety now, in
MD8698 rshowalter
9/9/01 11:56am .
MD8699 rshowalter
9/9/01 1:11pm .
Perhaps, ugly though things are, we can find some practical ways
of making them better. We have to have a plainly better
society, to show the world. And we have to find ways to make things
better for people, angry people, who are now, in Fanon's terms,
"the wretched of the earth."
We need to remember conflict, but it would be good if we'd
remember some warmer things, as well.
MD2665 rshowalter
4/27/01 5:30pm
MD3384 rshowalter
5/6/01 8:37pm
MD3523 rshowalter
5/8/01 4:12pm
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