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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 05:15pm Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9394
of 9408) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Japanese Veteran Writes of Brutal Philippine War By SETH
MYDANS http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/02/international/asia/02FILI.html
By SETH MYDANS
MANILA — Jintaro Ishida knows his country's guilty secrets. Like
few other Japanese, he knows in detail about the atrocities of World
War II, and he knows of the quiet torment of the aging veterans who
took part.
He knows, for example, about the massacre at the well in the
Philippine village of Lipa, where 400 people were thrown to their
deaths. The blood lust of the soldiers ran so high, he says, that
one of them smashed a rock onto the head of a woman who was combing
her hair. . . . .
MD8354 rshowalter
9/2/01 6:25pm ... MD8355 rshowalter
9/2/01 7:18pm
almarst-2001
- 05:16pm Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9395
of 9408)
If American troops set foot in Peshawar, ``the people will
suck their blood,'' - http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ap/20010918/wl/attacks_pakistan_18.html
I wonder if a "new crusaiders" know what they are up to?
rshowalter
- 05:23pm Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9396
of 9408) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Rape Camp http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?13@@.ee79f4e/1512
Aged thirteen she was dragged into a waiting truck Taken
to a military camp Then by boat-train to Hiroshima - Japan
Behind the miltary hospital Assigned a small plain room Next
morning at nine a. m.. soldiers lined up
Each had a ticket With name unit stamped and time allowed
"When I cried for my home i was beaten I cried often At
the end of the war I hadn't a tooth left in my head" Soon-Ae
Kang
Medical checks were taken weekly Fortnightly women were
injected with disinfectant 606 Causing them to abort
spontaneously. Causing infertility
Women who contacted venereal disease were murdered
At the end of the war women were herded into caves That
were dynamited Or were forced to commit suicide alongside
soldiers of the retreating Japanese army
Survivors have felt their pain Over the past half century
each time they urinate
Daily soldier rape by endless lines
- disabled Japan's strong Confucian-Shinto ethos Refuses
appology For deference to ancestors is sacrosanct
dawnRILEY
[words extracted from: Christine Toomey's 'waiting in pain'
article]
rshowalter
- 05:25pm Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9397
of 9408) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
almarst-2001
9/18/01 5:16pm . . the officers should know. And may well
start thinking hard, when the tactics become entirely clear.
The enlisted men may come to know even better.
And perhaps they should think about the suffering they're
causing, too - - and the implacable hatred of tens and hundreds of
millions of capable human beings.
almarst-2001
- 05:34pm Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9398
of 9408)
Robert,
The retoric coming from Washington, the military moves and the
recent pols conducted in US on a question of a massive military
response with "acceptable collateral damage" (what a term!) just
reinforced my oppinion that the only thing which can keep America in
check is FEAR.
May be that just what the "doctor prescribed" to make the US
policy more humble as promised by this President who apparently
suffers from a severe loss of memory.
rshowalter
- 05:42pm Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9399
of 9408) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Well, fear levels are higher now. And fear may be indispensible,
for people to deal with each other as people.
(Lord knows, Americans are scared enough of each other ,
and of their government.)
But fear alone isn't enough. There needs to be more
understanding, too, and in some areas, the issues are mechanical.
But let me make some quotes, from the media, that do give cause
for concern, and that do reinforce many of the concerns
almarst has been expressing on this thread, so diligently,
clearly, and usually so politely, since March.
rshowalter
- 05:43pm Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9400
of 9408) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
This, from fair , also seems an excellent (and
noncontradictory, but aesthetically important) counterpoint to
Natalie Angier's beautiful and true article Of Altruism,
Heroism and Evolution's Gifts in the Face of Terror By NATALIE
ANGIER http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/18/health/psychology/18ALTR.html
For altruism may not be evolution's only gift - - see
responses to people on the "other" side of the line, not thought of
as "us"- - but thought of as "them."
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