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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?


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rshowalter - 08:10am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9357 of 9376) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

We need to approach the problem with intelligence, in many senses of the term. High tech weapons don't help much here. Dishonesty hurts us.

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    The Science - Missile Defense thread is extensive, and somewhat specialized.

    A summary of it, with many links, is set out in the following links. The summary says something about what's been done here, and what there might be to hope for, using some of the kinds of interaction that have happened on this thread.

    MD8062 rshowalter 8/23/01 5:34pm .... MD8063 rshowalter 8/23/01 5:35pm
    MD8064 rshowalter 8/23/01 5:36pm ... MD8065 rshowalter 8/23/01 5:36pm
    MD8067 rshowalter 8/23/01 5:41pm ...

    MD3409 rshowalter 5/7/01 7:37am

    We need to fight terrorism in a way that most people in the world can identify with.

    If we do the opposite, we endanger ourselves and the whole world.

    lunarchick - 08:16am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9358 of 9376)
    lunarchick@www.com

    !

    lunarchick - 08:23am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9359 of 9376)
    lunarchick@www.com

    The terrorist way isn't the way that people approve of ... wasn't it a '1 in 5000' approach? (Angier article above). If this is so, then, within that community there will be more people who disapprove of, than approve of, terrorist tactics. The enemy within applies to a terrorists own world.

    Two questions -

      do terrorists/former terrorists ever conform back to the values of even their own society .. or are they always random odd_balls due to blow?
      can the community they live within be upgraded to the point where the function of a terrorist is redundant?

    rshowalter - 08:29am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9360 of 9376) Delete Message
    Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

    The answer to both questions is "yes."

    People do conform back. Communities can be upgraded (can upgrade themselves, as part of larger communities.)

    There are plenty of examples.

    rshowalter - 08:31am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9361 of 9376) Delete Message
    Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

    Justified trust is needed to maintain communities. We could do better here, and the example below is recent, and important, when we consider arguments for military action.

    MD7557 rshowalter 7/28/01 9:30pm ... MD7558 rshowalter 7/28/01 9:32pm

    The GUARDIAN reported on August 18, 2000 http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a399d43976bee.html that Serb killings, which the Western press said were up to 100,000 dead -- were under 3000. (set out in THE KOSVO FRAUD - WILL THEY EVER ADMIT IT? http://128.121.216.19/justin/j082100.html ... )

    Numbers matter in military decision making, and the disparity between 3,000 and 100,000 is glaring.

    It is vital, if the world is to run decently for us to do a MUCH better job of establishing facts than we have done. And a less corrupt job.

    rshowalter - 08:31am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9362 of 9376) Delete Message
    Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

    Many carefully written, deeply felt posts from almarst ... MD7559 rshowalter 7/28/01 9:33pm

    lunarchick - 08:44am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9363 of 9376)
    lunarchick@www.com

    WAR lifts Aussie Government - in the minds of the fickle public: http://www.roymorgan.com/polls/2001/3438/index.html http://www.roymorgan.com/polls/2001/index.html

    rshowalter - 08:44am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9364 of 9376) Delete Message
    Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

    Big reasons why the subject of "missile defense" matters:

    MD7562 rshowalter 7/29/01 4:48am

    lunarchick - 08:56am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9365 of 9376)
    lunarchick@www.com

    DoubleStandardsUSAmedia ref

    http://www.fair.org/index.html

    lunarchick - 09:00am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9366 of 9376)
    lunarchick@www.com

    Bwsh-Upcoming commitment

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