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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 07:32am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9349
of 9376) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD2615 rshowalter
4/26/01 7:05am
As an undergraduate, recruited to try to sort out some essential
questions in mathematics (on which the survival of the nation
arguably did depend) and some problems with discourse practices
(including problems with arguments that go out of control, that take
on a life of their own, and make for wars) I was carefully taught a
technique, probably as old as military forces, that the Nazis
actually set out in training manuals that I read. . . .
NYT editorial: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/26/opinion/26THU1.html
The War Within Bob Kerrey
MD2616 rshowalter
4/26/01 7:19am
MD2617 rshowalter
4/26/01 7:20am
MD2618 rshowalter
4/26/01 8:50am
A tradition of deception continues, in part because what has been
done has not been admitted, and perhaps, in the view of many, cannot
be admitted.
That is very dangerous now.
It shouldn't be tolerated in the United States, but it is being
tolerated, even celebrated.
I don't think world leaders should continue to tolerate it.
There is too much at stake.
lunarchick
- 07:34am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9350
of 9376) lunarchick@www.com
:) OBL ... Oblong ... Oblong
Chess .. there may be new and different strategies ... more ..
ledzeppelin
- 07:36am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9351
of 9376)
rshowalter - (#9333) You ask what can be done? Firstly our
governments must stop scoring so many own goals that is just
increasing the terrorists ability to win hearts and minds?
You went on to say "The United States has to move in ways that
make the situation better, not make them worse, and denying people's
humanity, dealing with them with contempt, doesn't help." I could
not agree more. Furthermore is it not time that the UN food aid
programme to nearly 6 million Afghani’s is started again! What
battle is won denying them humanity moreover to starve these people
to death is just giving credence to the teachings of the likes of
OBL?
To capture OBL the US + will have to forget the ‘so called’
Hi-Tec such as cruise missiles and battle fleets its now time for
the less conventional methods? More importantly its time for real
time intelligence!
You say "He is already popular with many millions of people."
popularity does not equal adoration? The art of war now is not to
turn OBL or allow him to turn himself into a God! God like OBL
becomes the millions.....and the millions he?
rshowalter
- 07:39am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9352
of 9376) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Dawn's right. We need to "change the game."
We do need a "war on terrorism."
One that the great majority of people in the world can "sign on"
to.
A war on all kinds of terrorism.
Almarst has spoken, and made citations, working convincingly,
eloquently, and over a long time, to make that point.
I wish the search engine was reinstated, so that it would be
easier for people to find what he's said -- so clearly, in so many
ways - - making points that Americans should deal with.
logician3
- 07:43am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9353
of 9376) Bush is an idiot.
I guess if we bomb enough people, everyone left will then like
us.
lunarchick
- 07:44am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9354
of 9376) lunarchick@www.com
Bwsh_hat
rshowalter
- 07:51am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9355
of 9376) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
A lot of people mourn with us. But something like half a million
people, mostly children, have died in Iraq because of sanctions.
Don't you expect that people mourn for them?
We need to make the world better, not worse.
. . . . .
For very practical reasons.
lunarchick
- 07:52am Sep 18, 2001 EST (#9356
of 9376) lunarchick@www.com
Petition for a Thoughtful U.S. Response http://home.uchicago.edu/~dhpicker/petition
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