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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
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limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
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gisterme
- 08:43pm Sep 16, 2001 EST (#9230
of 9249)
A poster on another forum asked this question...
"...Would someone please post a map of the Moslem Empire at
its peak?
This is what Islamic extremists and Jihad groups are saying is
"their" Holy Territory for which all sacrifice of the martyrs in
their midst are aiming to restore for Allah's sake..."
This is what they're saying; but it's no more truth than
the spell-binding oratorical images created by Hitler of the
thousand year Reich. This is virtually the same lie. This lie
comes directly from the father of lies and is designed to do
one thing and one thing only...instigate and maximize the spilling
of blood.
Fortunately, such a lie is much like an evil crop planted in a
field. This crop must be watered and carefully tended to survive.
The source of that loving care is also the sole source for the
hateful water that is required for it to flourish. Cut that off and
the evil crop will wither. That's because evil is not the natural
bias of the hearts of men.
The way to destroy that evil source is by the application of vast
quantities of truth. Not propaganda, not political rhetoric,
just simple truth.
How do we do that in places like Afghanistan and other areas
where there are vast numbers of illiterate or poorly educated people
who have no access to information besides transmitters of the lie?
It’s easy. Just use the same technology (our own) that these
terrorist groups are using against us. A society that can devise the
fantastic mobile communications and information systems as it has
done for the use of its own people can also apply that same
technology to inform others.
What's needed is not for a crop of land-mines and bombs to be
sown in that vast field of ignorance. Those will only serve the lie.
What’s needed are for a hundred million seeds of truth to be sown
instead. You say "gisterme are you nuts? What do you mean by seeds
of truth?"
Truth and untruth enter the heart, mind and soul through all of
our senses. But the spoken word is by far the most powerful means of
widespread transmission of both good and evil. It is even more
powerful than visual images because the powerful images that the
word can create by analogy, by allegory, by metaphor, by
parables...they are images that, once created, can be passed from
person to person with no further help from technology. Once they've
taken root, there's no stopping their spread. We need some "good
weeds" planted amidst the evil but carefully tended tillage.
How to do that? Perhaps a hundred million solar-powered
spread-spectrum radio receivers, delivered by air would be a good
start. Those receivers should be tuned to only one station...a
station that tells only the truth from the true Islamic
perspective.
The thing about we human creatures that will ultimately drive
evil from this planet, perhaps the real and tangible gift and proof
of God, is that intangible quality of character that exists
within the vast majority of our souls, a quality of character that
is able to distinguish the truth from the lie; but, for that
distinction to be made, the truth must be heard.
rshowalter
- 08:48pm Sep 16, 2001 EST (#9231
of 9249) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Yes, gisterme , thati's important, and I'm glad to hear it
from you.
Hopeful words. Fine words.
And justification by faith may sometimes be necessary.
But when it is possible (and it often is) truths can be
checked.
In a world where distrust is natural, and safe, that's reasonable
to ask for.
I find your words hopeful !
Out.
gisterme
- 09:13pm Sep 16, 2001 EST (#9232
of 9249)
rshowalter wrote ( rshowalter
9/16/01 6:53pm ): "...I'm using "morally forcing" in that
sense. for credible checking, by a process that could itself be
checked..."
Robert, all your faithless moralizing, the sum total of it
multiplied by a million wouldn't amount to a fart in a hurricane.
The entire basis of your philosophy/religion has been overcome by
events.
You're going to have to wait until the cause of the current
singularity of purpose that events of the last week have caused in
America are removed. Until then, if you continue with the same kind
of petty, ineffectual, shallow-sounding, divisive crap you usually
publish, you're only likely to get backlash from any but your own
cronies.
dirac_10
- 10:02pm Sep 16, 2001 EST (#9233
of 9249)
Turns out both sides are right. We're gonna spend money on all of
it. Including MD.
Think if Iraq and Pakistan could destroy us by a quick push of a
button.
Would that complicate the present situation?
Pakistan may be plunged into a very tough civil war. Hard to
predict who will win. Who would own the button.
rshowalter
- 10:12pm Sep 16, 2001 EST (#9234
of 9249) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
gisterme
9/16/01 9:13pm (Condoleezza?) , the world is watching you, and
your colleagues.
And responses like your last one won't stand you in great stead.
Do you own the events that are unfolding?
. . . . . . .
Try honesty, gisterme.
Might be hard for you. But the alternatives are too complicated.
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