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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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lunarchick
- 03:49am Sep 16, 2001 EST (#9159
of 9169) lunarchick@www.com
MARGARET WARNER: Mr. Bearden, you, of course, were on the front
lines of that Afghan war. Does this jibe with your view?
MILTON BEARDEN: I think we can overdraw the experience of the
Afghan Arabs as opposed to the Afghan people themselves. That war
was fought and essentially won by the Afghan people who lost a
million dead, a million and a half maimed and maybe 5, 6, 7 million
driven in to external exile. We can overdraw the role of the Afghan
Arabs played in that war. I think it has been....
MARGARET WARNER: When you say Afghan Arabs, you mean people from
other countries who were recruited by the CIA -
MILTON BEARDEN: No, no, no.
A challenge for a generation MARGARET WARNER: Or, do you mean
indigenous Afghans?
MILTON BEARDEN: No. I mean Arabs that came to Afghanistan, that
came to Pakistan to take part in the Jihad. The CIA actually avoided
the issue of recruiting Arabs for this war, although many people
will claim that that's a fact. That never happened - just simply
didn't happen. The truth is, is that the Arabs that came to take
part in this were more engaged in fund-raising activities, Osama bin
Laden for example, building homes for orphans and widows of martyrs
of the war.
The truth is that there was a very marginal role by non-Afghans
in that war. They fought it; they didn't need any help to fight it
except what we were providing them. So I think we have to try to
redefine this just a little bit. I have no doubts that these people
were affected by that, these Afghan Arabs, the people who came from
the Arab world. But I would take issue with what some of the
assessments I hear of the role they played in it. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/images/military/july-dec01/osamabearden.jpg
lunarchick
- 04:01am Sep 16, 2001 EST (#9160
of 9169) lunarchick@www.com
Three
Wise Monkeys
lunarchick
- 04:02am Sep 16, 2001 EST (#9161
of 9169) lunarchick@www.com
lunarchick
"Science News Poetry" 9/15/01 6:00pm
lunarchick
- 04:04am Sep 16, 2001 EST (#9162
of 9169) lunarchick@www.com
The school instructors were suspicious of a guy who didn't want
to learn take-off or landing - in the flight simulator. FBI arrested
him - as an illegal immigrant. They missed!!!
lunarchick
- 04:09am Sep 16, 2001 EST (#9163
of 9169) lunarchick@www.com
Pilger, John 1989 The Secret State p 184 .. on ASIO -
Australian Intelligence.
Since it's inception in 1949, ASIO had
distinguished itself by not uncovering a single spy or traitor
(this is still the case); yet it had become almost as powerful in
Australia as the CIA was under William CASEY during the Reagan
years. ASIO's speciality was, and is, the pursuit of paranoia.
lunarchick
- 04:30am Sep 16, 2001 EST (#9164
of 9169) lunarchick@www.com
WTC immediate recovery re business relates to security /
quality_standards (eg)
lunarchick
- 04:32am Sep 16, 2001 EST (#9165
of 9169) lunarchick@www.com
irishguard
"Maureen Dowd" 9/16/01 3:02am
lunarchick
- 05:14am Sep 16, 2001 EST (#9166
of 9169) lunarchick@www.com
Empathy towards 'Others' fits in maslow's pyramid at levels 3 and
is a requirement to move on to 4 :
3) Belonginess and Love: affiliate with others, be
accepted; and
4) Esteem: to achieve, be competent, gain approval and
recognition. http://www.valdosta.peachnet.edu/~whuitt/psy702/regsys/maslow.html
WRT a 2:1 Oz-Public-desire for America to chase us all into
military engagement ... raises the question why do 2 out of 3
people fail to see 'Others' as people. People with similar
needs and aspirations to their own?
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