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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?


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rshowalter - 12:08pm Sep 15, 2001 EST (#9096 of 9125) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

This forum has been focused on nuclear disarmament, with related military issues, especially missile defense, related to that. The issues involved are interdependent. For a long time, I've been wondering how the present administration could be taking the positions on missile defense that it has been taking.

In military matters, which are serious , it is important that things be done that can work.

I've used the word "treason" -- as a synonym for "disloyal" about the people backing systems that cannot work, and must waste scarce resources needed elswhere by the United States.

Some people have thought I've used worlds harshly.

MD8349 rshowalter 9/2/01 5:20pm

MD8717-8725 wrcooper 9/9/01 5:05pm

MD8722 wrcooper 9/9/01 7:30pm

These passages deal with words such as

"Misrepresentation, Fraud"

"Bad Faith Military"

and/or

"Dereliction of duty:

I said:

"At the level of the practical effect of what is being done, I think the word fits. It is hard for me to imagine that the people involved cannot imagine the bad consequences of their mistakes enough to do reasonable checking."

I think part of the problem has been that the military-industrial complex has been acting as if it was playing a "game" -- academic and abstract in various ways, where the consequences of waste and fraud haven't mattered.

Now, we ought to know better that military matters are serious.

I believe that it is strongly in the national interest to check checkable things about missile defense - - which represents a pattern of fraud and massive bad judgement that this nation can ill afford.

That the world can ill afford.

We need to work on the basis of things that are true , not fictions, and especially not fictions that are corrupt, and corrosive to all our international relations based on trust.

lunarchick - 04:42pm Sep 15, 2001 EST (#9097 of 9125)
lunarchick@www.com

The GAME'S over for the Administration. People are wanting to know why with The Fall of Every Floor the guns (of Singapore) were facing out into the never never of blue ocean when internal defence in the form of intercepting fighters were never at the ready.

lunarchick - 04:47pm Sep 15, 2001 EST (#9098 of 9125)
lunarchick@www.com

The whole of American military has to be subject to a report that looks at conflicts of interest - from the Bush family down, through the military and military technomachinery.

There needs to be a look at as to why people can't bring the TRUTH before the eyes of the American and world (we're all switched-in) publics.

There is too much theatre_critiquing of USA public power figures ... and too little annalysis from the AmMedia.

There's a need for the scientists and engineers of the USA, such as Postol, to be allowed to put forward their reasoned viewpoints .. and for checking and truth searching to to done - and answers shown.

Why have Congress been so restrained as not to function in the interest of the people over such matters?

lunarchick - 04:50pm Sep 15, 2001 EST (#9099 of 9125)
lunarchick@www.com

from above (today) caught my attention:

Already, the Bush administration is assembling an international coalition for an Israeli-style war against terrorism, as if such counter-productive acts of outrage had an existence separate from the social conditions out of which they arise. But for every "terror network" that is rooted out, another will emerge - until the injustices and inequalities that produce them are addressed. s.milne@guardian.co.uk

lunarchick - 04:55pm Sep 15, 2001 EST (#9100 of 9125)
lunarchick@www.com

Alex made a comment on Blair ...

I think Leaders who are/were lawyers have to be placed in a separate box to regular folk. Blair tries hard to do the right thing. We have lawyer - Howard ... on him i think he's never out of the court room of opportunism, wanting a 'win' on some aspect of each senario. [ Bwsh of course is in a 'special' category ... the superRich spoiltBoy who works to fan his fathers' technoMilitary conflicts of interest --- what a dangerous animal to have as the current world leader ]

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