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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 12:08pm Sep 15, 2001 EST (#9096
of 9125) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
This forum has been focused on nuclear disarmament, with related
military issues, especially missile defense, related to that. The
issues involved are interdependent. For a long time, I've been
wondering how the present administration could be taking the
positions on missile defense that it has been taking.
In military matters, which are serious , it is important
that things be done that can work.
I've used the word "treason" -- as a synonym for "disloyal" about
the people backing systems that cannot work, and must waste scarce
resources needed elswhere by the United States.
Some people have thought I've used worlds harshly.
MD8349 rshowalter
9/2/01 5:20pm
MD8717-8725 wrcooper
9/9/01 5:05pm
MD8722 wrcooper
9/9/01 7:30pm
These passages deal with words such as
"Misrepresentation, Fraud"
"Bad Faith Military"
and/or
"Dereliction of duty:
I said:
"At the level of the practical effect of what is
being done, I think the word fits. It is hard for me to imagine
that the people involved cannot imagine the bad consequences of
their mistakes enough to do reasonable checking."
I think part of the problem has been that the
military-industrial complex has been acting as if it was playing a
"game" -- academic and abstract in various ways, where the
consequences of waste and fraud haven't mattered.
Now, we ought to know better that military matters are
serious.
I believe that it is strongly in the national interest to check
checkable things about missile defense - - which represents a
pattern of fraud and massive bad judgement that this nation can ill
afford.
That the world can ill afford.
We need to work on the basis of things that are true , not
fictions, and especially not fictions that are corrupt, and
corrosive to all our international relations based on trust.
lunarchick
- 04:42pm Sep 15, 2001 EST (#9097
of 9125) lunarchick@www.com
The GAME'S over for the Administration. People are wanting to
know why with The Fall of Every Floor the guns (of Singapore)
were facing out into the never never of blue ocean when internal
defence in the form of intercepting fighters were never at the
ready.
lunarchick
- 04:47pm Sep 15, 2001 EST (#9098
of 9125) lunarchick@www.com
The whole of American military has to be subject to a report that
looks at conflicts of interest - from the Bush family down, through
the military and military technomachinery.
There needs to be a look at as to why people can't bring the
TRUTH before the eyes of the American and world (we're all
switched-in) publics.
There is too much theatre_critiquing of USA public power figures
... and too little annalysis from the AmMedia.
There's a need for the scientists and engineers of the USA, such
as Postol, to be allowed to put forward their reasoned viewpoints ..
and for checking and truth searching to to done - and answers shown.
Why have Congress been so restrained as not to function in the
interest of the people over such matters?
lunarchick
- 04:50pm Sep 15, 2001 EST (#9099
of 9125) lunarchick@www.com
from above (today) caught my attention:
Already, the Bush administration is assembling an
international coalition for an Israeli-style war against
terrorism, as if such counter-productive acts of outrage had an
existence separate from the social conditions out of which they
arise. But for every "terror network" that is rooted out, another
will emerge - until the injustices and inequalities that produce
them are addressed. s.milne@guardian.co.uk
lunarchick
- 04:55pm Sep 15, 2001 EST (#9100
of 9125) lunarchick@www.com
Alex made a comment on Blair ...
I think Leaders who are/were lawyers have to be placed in a
separate box to regular folk. Blair tries hard to do the right
thing. We have lawyer - Howard ... on him i think he's never out of
the court room of opportunism, wanting a 'win' on some aspect of
each senario. [ Bwsh of course is in a 'special' category ... the
superRich spoiltBoy who works to fan his fathers' technoMilitary
conflicts of interest --- what a dangerous animal to have as the
current world leader ]
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