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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

lunarchick - 02:27am Sep 14, 2001 EST (#9036 of 9044)
lunarchick@www.com

Seems that the 5rh Estate works outside the Congress to it's own agenda.

Didn't a poster above say that the training of the 5th Estate was done to NAZI specification.

So, a reader of this thread might conclude tht the Agency had been allowed to set it's own agenda.

How come the Congress has been so slack?

Why aren't the Congress 'in control' of the Agency?

Why don't they bring it to heel, and make it report to the Congress?

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Reading the above one concludes that the BUSHbwsh family have had their own agenda -- nothing to do witht he welfare of the American people -- a lot to do with the welfare of their hip pockets and that of their associates.

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This raises the point regarding CONFLICT OF INTEREST wrt the Bush Family!

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The asbestos ridden dust has settled over Manhatten Island .... how long before the Congress start to LOOK at the HISTORY of this issue that stretches back to the end of WWII ..

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The best approach may be to completely disbandoned the whole 5th Estate -- to deprive it of access to the syphoning public tax funding -- to establish a NEW administrative pattern.

At the same time LOOKING at the way the Agency and groups such as CARLYLE have taken up a feather_bedded life of their own.

That this is so publically known .. and not investigates suggests that the supposed movers and shakers (MEDIA investigtors) have had the stuffing knocked out of them over the years -- and have cowtowed to the 5th Estate.

Didn't Clinton hint that when President he didn't have the reign imagined to run the country - rather he too was intimidated by the same.

The same that throughout his Presidency ran bogus court case after court case against him - sapping his focus.

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As i've said on this thread

(get the search button working please Mr Howell when you take the reigns next week - or someone who is a higher level user and has search capabilities from the IT Administrator .. oh for a functional GUI!)

Bill CLINTON was both a President of the USA and a World President.

Bwsh - is president of Texas - still - let me be more specific ... Crawford.

The texicutioner president of Texas - puppet to ElderBush has the blood of 5000 people on his hands -- people for around the world -- because his role was to be and obey the 5th Estate -- rather than be a people's president.

Listen to his comments about he being a 'LOVABLE' guy ... and within the same breath beating the WAR drums!

logician3 - 06:51am Sep 14, 2001 EST (#9037 of 9044)
Bush is an idiot.

Bush was too busy hunting jackrabbits in Texas to worry about terrorism.

ledzeppelin - 07:00am Sep 14, 2001 EST (#9038 of 9044)

As it has been general knowledge about bin Ladens past link with the CIA why the sudden suprise now?

Moreover given his CIA training and his own network and his public statements conserning his desire to obtain nuclear weapons is why I have always been conserned as to the USA's Missile Defence Programme giving bin Laden greater legitamacy within the fundamental movement on the basis that the US would have not a missile shield but a missile system hovering above the Holy Cities? Secondly bin Laden or a terrorist would not use an inter-continental ballistic missile in any event? Thirdly the Son of Star Wars programme would destabalise more nations enabling terrorists to flurish, I could go on an on but I have saids it all before?

I just pray that our nations will forget Star Wars and spend the billions on taking out of the system the ingrediants for terrorists to make weapons of mass destruction? Moreover this time institute the anti-terrorist intellegence measures that will bring about 'real time' data on such persons as bin Laden furthermore removing the threat of any such further terrorist act whatismore ensuring we know whom is to follow bin Laden as there sure is another as sure as eggs is eggs an heir is waiting in the wings, as there are other terrorists as evil if not more so than bin Laden?

rshowalter - 09:27am Sep 14, 2001 EST (#9039 of 9044)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

We need to be careful, and ask for and do things that are actually practical, for the human beings and human groups involved.

That's not being "idealistic" except in a sense where ideals are vital to all humanity.

Survival, and maintenance of reasonable hopes, require that we do this.

Right now, I'm both hopeful and afraid, and trying to find useful things to say and do. I hope many others, from many perspectives, are too.

ledzeppelin - 11:42am Sep 14, 2001 EST (#9040 of 9044)

rshowalter - 09:27am Sep 14, 2001 EST (#9039 of 9039) You will remain afraid if you expect ideals to keep you safe, it is time that humanity fights inhumanity and with regret we do not live in an ideal world therefore to fight that battle and win humanity will have to forget idealistic methodology and notions? The only practical thing any of us can say or do is search for the solution and seek out ways to ensure such obsenaties do not happen again? Moreover in some instances and however painful seek out the answer to the question why it did in the first instant! Therefore it is best to keep on thread and for us to explore the merits or otherwise of Son of Star Wars, et al.

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