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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 05:06pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8962
of 8975) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Don't forget that it is possible to miscalculate , get
surprised, and lose.
There's a common mathematical relation, called the factorial
relation, set out with a number and an explanation point.
1! = 1
2! = 2 x 1 = 2
3! = 3 x 2 x 1 = 6
4! = 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = 24
5! = 5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = 120
. . . .
10! = 3,628,800
. . . .
15! = 1,307,674,368 x 100,000,000,000
and explosive growth thereafter.
When there are a lot of possibilities, and a lot of things can
happen in several orders, the number of things that could
happen grows fast.
In complex circumstances, you can't defend against them
all.
You can't always know what's coming.
Be careful.
rshowalter
- 05:09pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8963
of 8975) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
For reasons like that, by the way, there are jobs that are
impossible , even for fast computers.
Missile Defense, as now designed, has a number of such
showstoppers, some not encountered yet.
Some of them have already made progress on crucial jobs
maddeningly slow for a decade.
Have your contractors missed this simple, unchangeable fact about
the world?
almarst-2001
- 05:14pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8964
of 8975)
Gisterme,
I am impressed by your buttle-plan;)
I wish you also know what those forces will do? Occupy the Iraq?
The Afganistan? The Pakistan? The Iran? The Sudan? The Libia? The
Siria? And what next? Install the "democracy" and teach the
tolerance and admiration toward the shiny West?
In my oppinion, it would be good enough if US would stop at least
create the next generation of those monsters in places like Kosovo
and Chechnia.
It also would be nice if the US would seriously denounce all
types of terrorism (by my definition) and start acting accordingly.
As for this tragic event, let's just hope the West does not turn
this into catastrophy. The best it can do is to improve the internal
security and start the process of reducing the number of its
enemies. Starting from some honest assessement of its own behavier.
It will not help to fight the terrorism while practicing it at the
same time.
almarst-2001
- 05:22pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8965
of 8975)
Clinton-Approved Iranian Arms Transfers Help Turn Bosnia into
Militant Islamic Base - http://members.tripod.com/Balkania/resources/geostrategy/rpc_iran_arms_bosnia.html
U.S. Senate Republican Policy Committee - Larry E. Craig,
Chairman - Jade West, Staff Director - 'There is no question that
the policy of getting arms into Bosnia was of great assistance in
allowing the Iranians to dig in and create good relations with the
Bosnian government,' a senior CIA officer told Congress in a
classified deposition. 'And it is a thing we will live to regret
because when they blow up some Americans, as they no doubt will
before this . . . thing is over, it will be in part because the
Iranians were able to have the time and contacts to establish
themselves well in Bosnia.'" ["Iran Gave Bosnia Leader $500,000, CIA
Alleges: Classified Report Says Izetbegovic Has Been 'Co-Opted,'
Contradicting U.S. Public Assertion of Rift," Los Angeles Times,
12/31/96. Ellipses in original. Alija Izetbegovic is the Muslim
president of Bosnia.]
"'If you read President Izetbegovic's writings, as I have,
there is no doubt that he is an Islamic fundamentalist,' said a
senior Western diplomat with long experience in the region. 'He is a
very nice fundamentalist, but he is still a fundamentalist. This has
not changed. His goal is to establish a Muslim state in Bosnia, and
the Serbs and Croats understand this better than the rest of us.'"
["Bosnian Leader Hails Islam at Election Rallies," New York Times,
9/2/96]
almarst-2001
- 05:32pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8966
of 8975)
Another oppinion: yok_finney
"U.S. Foreign Policy" 9/13/01 3:54pm
almarst-2001
- 05:36pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8967
of 8975)
Today I have seen on the Russian news (NTV) the pictures of
attacked muslim places in US. Some burned, some fired upon.
Any guess how far are we from anti-muslim pogroms in this
country?
almarst-2001
- 05:41pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8968
of 8975)
Taliban Plead for Mercy to the Miserable in a Land of Nothing
- http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/13/international/13AFGH.html
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