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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

rshowalter - 03:45pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8949 of 8975)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

We have to be careful , in all the senses of that word.

We want terror in the world to be much less , not more.

There's plenty of need for competent military function, but that can't be the whole story -- and the military has to do sensible things.

lunarchick - 03:47pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8950 of 8975)
lunarchick@www.com

Putin has lined up Eurasia. Fox Latin America. And lackies like Australia, Britain,and Canada seem happy to lick the polish to shine on any US Presidents boots.

Bwsh advisors must have read carefully the Chi dynasty book on understanding strategy and Asians .. for last night .. the Rogue State (USA) fluffed up its feathers then sat on its nest and threw under it's warm boney belly a golden egg with the name of most countries that matter ... to declare war on 'terrorism'.

At the one level all will concurr .. but .. at another level ... wasn't that a crafty strategic move by the USA war horses to re-position America. They have to be congratulated.

rshowalter - 03:48pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8951 of 8975)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

From time to time, I set out directories and summaries of this thread, because it is extensive ... MD6837 rshowalter 7/10/01 10:13am ... MD6838 rshowalter 7/10/01 10:13am MD6839 rshowalter 7/10/01 10:14am

Discussion, including many with gisterme , our "Bush administration stand-in" and almarst , our "Putin stand in" have continued.

"Counting search pages" MD7657 rshowalter 7/31/01 5:34pm

Exchanges with gisterme :
MD7656 rshowalter 7/31/01 3:16pm

Each but the last of the links below to 30 postings by gisterme:
MD7658 rshowalter 7/31/01 5:35pm ... MD7659 rshowalter 7/31/01 5:36pm
MD7660 rshowalter 7/31/01 5:36pm ... MD7661 rshowalter 7/31/01 5:37pm
MD7662 rshowalter 7/31/01 5:38pm ... MD7663 rshowalter 7/31/01 5:38pm
MD7664 rshowalter 7/31/01 5:39pm ... MD7665 rshowalter 7/31/01 5:40pm
MD7666 rshowalter 7/31/01 6:51pm ...

MD7497 rshowalter 7/27/01 11:05am

There have been many since. I think it is useful to point out how much involved gisterme has been on this forum, in a way that can easily be seen, and judged by sampling.

I've very much appreciated gisterme's involvement, because gisterme's postings have seemed to indicate such deep sources of information, and so much rank.

Some fairly complete summaries of this thread, much more compact than the Missile Defense forum itself, are set out from #151 of Psychwarfare, Casablanca -- and terror http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/159

since August 29, including a summary yesterday: http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/236

lunarchick - 03:54pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8952 of 8975)
lunarchick@www.com

Getting back to the guys who DID THIS :

perhaps Doctor PHIL of Ophra fame might take the time to look into their heads and work out the process that lead them to THIS!

lunarchick - 04:03pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8953 of 8975)
lunarchick@www.com

Permaculture's Bill Mollison - at the end of a permaculture show day - talked about Trusts. During the talk, that was mainly biographical, He made the point that as he'd travelled the world on his mission to educate folks as to how they can develop gardens and grow food and be self-sufficient, he noticed that governments never talked to each other. They were separate entities who each had their own set of operating rules.

This non-communication factor has been emphasised by a french accented commentator:

who notes that
the secret services of Europe don't intercommunicate

this makes it most difficult to pre-empt plotters.

lunarchick - 04:12pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8954 of 8975)
lunarchick@www.com

The gulf war was perverse!
The WTC.DC war is inverse!

Any comments on the 'out in the open' dawn of the BushBwsh presidency!

If OIL is the root of all evil ... isn't it time to fund a raft of alternative green energies ... so, rather than having a handful of greedy people reaping oil rewards, power would be more diverse! then terrorism would reverse!

rshowalter - 04:16pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8955 of 8975)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Oil isn't the root of all evil, but as almarst has pointed out with many fine references backing him up, it is the root of a lot of it.

There's more to terrorism than that.

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