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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 07:54am Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8924
of 8934) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I'm for eradicating terrorism, and not averse to the use
of some violence in the process of doing it. I think the terrorists
who attacked America should be punished, and I wouldn't mind it
being memorable, wrenching punishment, ugly in proportion to what
they did.
But in the world as it is, we need to deal with arguments about
our own behavior, too. MD8892 rshowalter
9/12/01 7:40pm
lunarchick
- 08:05am Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8925
of 8934) lunarchick@www.com
This 1933
classic came out at the same time the dangers of asbestos were
understood.
This week she, she, she, she, she, she, she fell, fell, fell,
fell, fell, fell, fell from the scraper ... then fell the scraper
... and the cloud contained asbestos .. and back to quality ... air
quality ... lungs ... and lack of masks in NY.
rshowalter
- 08:10am Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8926
of 8934) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I have a hard day ahead of me, trying to say the bad things about
gisterme that she's asked me to say, and trying to do so with
balance.
What a chore! Condoleezza Rice sure is a complicated person.
Beautiful, intelligent, accomplished, sparkling, sexy . .
A lot like gisterme , in those ways and others, it
seems to me.
lunarchick
- 08:21am Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8927
of 8934) lunarchick@www.com
Sounds
as if you'll be running the gauntlet from tarot
... to ...
uhhmmmmmm ..... tea
leaves
lunarchick
- 08:27am Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8928
of 8934) lunarchick@www.com
Watch out for airplanes and towers in those leaves!
~ http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest
rshowalter
- 08:31am Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8929
of 8934) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
These faces, among so many, are worth looking at . . they give
one pause -- about abstractions that can be too simple. http://www.guardian.co.uk/gall/0,8542,551227,00.html
rshowalter
- 08:36am Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8930
of 8934) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Death Be Not Proud by John Donne
http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee74d94/3521
almarst-2001
- 11:56am Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8931
of 8934)
No sane person can justify this act of terror against innocent
civilians in US.
And, as Armel pointed, the US record mau not be worst then
others.
Except for the following:
1. The US had the least of all other nations to commit any
atrocities it commited.
2. The US is the most powerful nation in order of magnitudes
greater then its victims.
3. Due to its power, it can and must follow a different standards
of behavier.
rshowalter
- 12:07pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8932
of 8934) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
almarst , for the US to follow a different, higher
standard of behavior (and I agree that it should) -- people with
influence, from other nations, have to ask for it.
And also show responsibility themselves. As is, it seems to me,
happening impressively and increasingly.
rshowalter
- 12:16pm Sep 13, 2001 EST (#8933
of 8934) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Now is a time for mourning, but also for an increased seriousness
that can make a lot of things better.
We cannot possibly, and should not "all become alike" -- or all
think alike. But on issues important to peace, decency, and human
cooperation, we need to have "islands of fact" where we are "reading
from the same page" -- and can cooperate.
We need to find "win-win" situations in many places where they've
been classified out of existence. You and I, who feel differently
about many things, and disagree about many things, have been working
for that.
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