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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

rshowalter - 04:54pm Sep 12, 2001 EST (#8858 of 8870)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

MD5784-5787 rshowalter 6/22/01 1:05pm ... sets out Henry Kissinger on Trial: A Guide to the Controversy Surrounding the Diplomat from the Encyclopedia Britannica web site --February 2001

US Policy in Guatemala MD6341 rshowalter 6/30/01 3:07pm

THREATS TO USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS: The Sixteen Known Nuclear Crises of the Cold War, 1946-1985 by David R. Morgan , National President , Veterans Against Nuclear Arms Vancouver, Canada March 6, 1996 http://scienceforpeace.sa.utoronto.ca/WorkingGroupsPage/NucWeaponsPage/Documents/ThreatsNucWea.html

Russians, other Europeans, and people in nations all over the world have reason to be concerned about patterns of agressiveness, and mercilessness, in the US past. And Wesley Clark's recent book ought to reinforce these concerns.

Some expressions of almarst's concerns:
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lunarchick - 04:56pm Sep 12, 2001 EST (#8859 of 8870)
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Rogue State: http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/archives/2001b_Monday6August2001.htm

lunarchick - 05:01pm Sep 12, 2001 EST (#8860 of 8870)
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Afghanistan: behind the veil: Talibhan: http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/default.htm

lunarchick - 05:06pm Sep 12, 2001 EST (#8861 of 8870)
lunarchick@www.com

Would
TRUTH help the stock market? That's grabbing world attention post WTC.

rshowalter - 05:06pm Sep 12, 2001 EST (#8862 of 8870)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

"Rogue State" includes some great interviews, including one with Richard Garwin. http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/roguestate/interviews/garwin.htm

Cooper, almarst has laid out plenty of reasons why he thinks of Americans, in significant ways, as "bad guys".

I think both good and bad. But also think that, if we could see what others see, that looks bad to them (and to me, too) the possibilities for peace, and American security, would be much better.

There are a lot of quite coherent people, almarst among them, who have some very negative things to say about the United States.

We shouldn't be blind to what is said -- if we are, we can neither effectively deny it (if the points or wrong) or fix it (if the points are right, and fixable, as I often think they are.)

I'm against terrorism.

A lot of people with a lot of resentment against the United States aren't terrorists.

rshowalter - 05:15pm Sep 12, 2001 EST (#8863 of 8870)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Some very dedicated human beings, who worked hard at it, just sacrificed their lives in a very coordinated way, and did us a lot of damage, because they felt that it was right to hurt us.

I think what they did was awful, but if you can't imagine why they did it - - then a lot of possibilities for reacting well are closed off.

Cooper, do you really think what you said in wrcooper 9/12/01 4:49pm can apply as a reasonable and complete explanation about such actions by human beings ?

It is a dismissal, that only sounds like an explanation. You're dehumanizing them.

(The Nazis were people, too. That isn't to defend anything they did. But it is a fact.)

Myself, I don't feel forgiving about what those terrorists did. But they were human beings. Dangerous animals. Even as you and I are dangerous animals.

wrcooper - 05:18pm Sep 12, 2001 EST (#8864 of 8870)

rshowalter 9/12/01 5:06pm

I'm not saying the U.S. is perfect. But state what you think our nation's faults are in our foreign policy WRT the Middle East. How do we deserve the kind the attacks that were made yesterday? I've heard various voices, including yours, state that the U.S. brought this attack upon itself. I gathered from what you said that we deserved it somehow. It was warranted based on U.S. behavior. Defend that statement.

wrcooper - 05:19pm Sep 12, 2001 EST (#8865 of 8870)

rshowalter 9/12/01 5:15pm

Nonsense. It's impossible to dehumanize criminal evil. It's already dehumanized.

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