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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 04:33pm Sep 12, 2001 EST (#8853
of 8870) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
This article is worth careful reading in that regard.
. Elder Bush in Big GOP Cast Toiling for Top
Equity Firm by LESLIE WAYNE http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/05/politics/05CARL.html
MD8659 rshowalter
9/8/01 1:35pm ... MD8660 rshowalter
9/8/01 1:48pm MD8661 rshowalter
9/8/01 1:50pm
In the Eisenhower administration, there was an scandal, about
undue influence. It concerned a fur coat -- a vicuna coat. Now,
people in the Bush administration, and directly connected to the
administration by strong ties of family or connection, have
financial interest in government decisions. They act to influence
and convey information about those decisions. The fact, and the huge
sums involved, are disclosed, and the reaction is very muted.
Indecencies have accumulated, standards have eroded to a stunning
degree, and "squeeze plays" involving information flows that are
greatly to the disadvantage of other countries have accumulated.
These things need to be adressed.
The answer that "America is perfect -- it is everybody else
who has to accomodate" isn't going to work.
Shouldn't work domestically. Can't be expected to work
internationally.
. . .
On this thread, almarst has raised some very important
questions about the good faith of the United States, and done
so from a coherent point of view. His concerns should be adressed -
- that is, if the United States expects "honorable conduct" -- in
its behalf, from others.
rshowalter
- 04:35pm Sep 12, 2001 EST (#8854
of 8870) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
There are reasons why we are hated in many parts of the
world, and we should fix them.
To a very large extent, we can, and it would be in our interest,
material as well as moral, to do so.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't fight terrorism. We should. But to
do it effectively, we need to fix some things that most Americans
would be ashamed of now, if they understood them.
rshowalter
- 04:43pm Sep 12, 2001 EST (#8855
of 8870) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The United States and our closest allies have had serious
problems with a very "selective" justice, and that is a thing
that many people have noticed, and resent. Almarst is bitter
about the matter, and gives reasons I can understand. MD8744 rshowalter
9/10/01 9:26pm
If we are to expect the ultimate of good faith and "active
justice" from others, we have to deal with some of our own
problems, too.
Not continue to perpetrate frauds - - and not to thumb our nose
at the interests of everyone else in the world except when we
happen to be in trouble.
We also have a problem - - and people have noticed. We've been
threatening people with nuclear weapons, for fifty years (certainly
becq was clear about that) and people resent it. Some call
American the biggest terrorists of all -- not long ago, there was an
Aussie TV show, titled Rogue State. It was about the United
States.
wrcooper
- 04:49pm Sep 12, 2001 EST (#8856
of 8870)
Some call American the biggest terrorists of all
-- not long ago, there was an Aussie TV show, titled Rogue State.
It was about the United States.
You don't agree with this, do you? The U.S. inspires jealousy
because it's a rich, powerful nation--the richest and most powerful.
Many fanatical Muslims hate us because we're perceived as being
largely Christian, or worse, secular. They hate our Enlightenment
values; they hate our cultural influence. It's not because of what
we do; it's because of who we are. They hate our defense of
democracy; they hate and fear our freedom. Every tin-pot dictator
and tyrant who rules with an iron fist or with fear hates our
opennness. You don't really believe that crap about the U.S. being a
global bad guy, do you? I pity you if you do.
rshowalter
- 04:54pm Sep 12, 2001 EST (#8857
of 8870) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Cooper, let me post this, and get back to you.
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