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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 01:11pm Sep 9, 2001 EST (#8699
of 8708) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Do American patterns now endanger the world?
Many of the patterns that the elite members of CSIS regard as
most beautiful are exemplified, I believe, in the NUNN-WOLFOWITZ
TASK FORCE REPORT: INDUSTRY "BEST PRACTICES" REGARDING EXPORT
COMPLIANCE PROGRAMS http://164.109.59.52/library/pdf/nunnwolfowitz.pdf
. . . but are these the patterns we need now, or the patterns we
need to get away from?
Here is Ted Turner's statement on January 8, 2001, announcing the
Nuclear Threat Initiative. Turner personally stands for the
complete elimination nuclear weapons, and makes that clear. And he
has committed 250 million dollars to the effort -- a huge sum,
compared to other sums available from foundations - for the cause of
peace.
.. Press Statement by Ted Turner Announcing the
Nuclear Threat Initiative http://www.unfoundation.org/unfnews/other/turner_20010111.asp
Are Turner's hopes impossible, now, because he is asking for
things that are "impossible" of the American establishment CSIS
represents?
When a man does a wonderful, generous thing, he has some reason
to expect that he'll be praised. (There is a nice scene about that,
when Rick is generous, in Casablanca . )
Since January 8, Turner has been afflicted. And, still today, the
Nuclear Threat Initiative has not set up a web site, and when I
asked for their mission statement, I got the distinct impression
that they didn't have any definition of what they were about, and
had to take time to write it. Whenever it was written, their mission
statement is a beautiful one: MD8426 rshowalter
9/4/01 11:11am
“ To strengthen global security by reducing the
risk of use and preventing the spread of nuclear and other weapons
of mass destruction. We will also work to build the trust,
transparency, and security which are preconditions to the ultimate
fulfillment of the Nonproliferation Treaty's goals and
ambitions.”
But is it possible for that committment to be honored in
America, without a willingness to admit that some basic
American ways of dealing with military matters are going to
have to change?
My own view is that some basic admissions are going to have to
be made by people who have worked, their whole lives long, to harden
their hearts, and been very successful in that, and in other
things.
Dawn Riley and I have worked hard to try to find and focus
insights that will make levels of peace and collaboration that have
been impossible before possible. I believe that one of our basic
insights, set out in the beginning of Mankind's Inhumanity to Man
and Woman - As natural as human goodness? fits, and is on point,
here. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b085/0
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rgbrasel
- 01:51pm Sep 9, 2001 EST (#8700
of 8708) RGBrasel@hotmail.com
re: nonproliferation, test bans, chemical weapons, biological
weapons, and other issues
Before we can expect transparency from other nations that have
developed or are developing deliverable weapons of mass destruction,
we ourselves should be transparent. Under the current security
paradigm, the US military and other agencies involved in weapons
r&d still operate under an umbrella of paranoia. First of all,
there is no accountability to the people, under the guise of
national security. I believe that programs such as stealth, etc.
should retain their complete secrecy for the reason that those
technologies will save the lives of American and allied soldiers.
However, I also believe that the books should be opened on our own
mass destruction weapons research--past and present. Neutron bombs,
bioweapons, etc., are not defensive weapons, nor are they weapons to
"neutralize" military targets. They exist for one reason: to kill
large numbers of human beings, military and civilian.
We have lived too long under the shadow of annihilation.
Disclosure on the part of our country is the most important step in
ensuring a world free of weapons that threaten our very existence.
lunarchick
- 02:43pm Sep 9, 2001 EST (#8701
of 8708) lunarchick@www.com
believe that programs such as stealth, etc. should
retain their complete secrecy for the reason that those
technologies will save the lives of
'no one' ... in that a plane 1/4 the size of a football field
creates distortion patterns as it moves --- and can be 'seen'
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