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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 01:35pm Sep 8, 2001 EST (#8659
of 8662) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD5924 rshowalter
6/24/01 7:50am
MD5852 rshowalter
6/22/01 7:21pm ... includes this:
"I believe this article merits special attention,
because it relates to the manufacture of "consent" and the
projection of "artificial sincerity" according to patterns
perfected, in detail, by the Nazis.
... In Virginia, Young Conservatives Learn How
to Develop and Use Their Political Voices by BLAINE HARDEN http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/11/politics/11CONS.html
linked to md4771 rshowalter
6/11/01 6:14pm
It is also interesting to search "Carlyle" in this thread. You'll
find MD905 rshowalter
3/10/01 12:08pm . . . which includes this:
"I wonder how many enlisted men (and there are
plenty of literate ones) could read Elder Bush in Big GOP Cast
Toiling for Top Equity Firm by LESLIE WAYNE http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/05/politics/05CARL.html
without being ashamed?
" I wonder how many military leaders would want
soldiers to read such things prior to having to risk their lives
in combat?
" I wonder how many cops, or local politicians, or
accountants, could read the piece, and think about security rules
- where no one can ask questions, without being alarmed?
" I wonder how anyone can read the piece, and not
be alarmed by conflicts of interest in the current administration,
right up to the top ? . . .
In the Eisenhower administration, there was an scandal, about
undue influence. It concerned a fur coat -- a vicuna coat. Now,
people in the administration, and directly connected to the
administration by strong ties of family or connection, have
financial interest in government decisions. They act to influence
and convey information about those decisions. The fact, and the huge
sums involved, are disclosed, and the reaction is very muted.
Indecencies have accumulated, standards have eroded to a stunning
degree.
If something of the import of Elder Bush in Big GOP Cast
Toiling for Top Equity Firm by LESLIE WAYNE http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/05/politics/05CARL.html
had come out in Eisenhower's time, there would have been an uproar.
There should be an uproar now, and people in other nations, judging
the honor of the United States, ought to note that there has not
been an uproar.
In military matters, and political matters, too, we need to take
steps to reverse the indecencies that have accumulated since World
War II.
Including especially nuclear weapons, and the systems of ideas
that make them "all right - - and all right to use - - and all right
to use as threats"
rshowalter
- 01:48pm Sep 8, 2001 EST (#8660
of 8662) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Fox Urges Scrapping of 54-Year Treaty Between U.S. and
Mexico By GINGER THOMPSON http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/08/international/americas/08PREX.html
I wonder how many treaties between the US and other nations do
not have such "withdrawal with notice" clauses?
My guess is that such clauses are, and have long been, standard
boilerplate in essentially all our treaties.
What if very many of them started to be exercised at once?
Why should they not do so, for any reason of national interest
any nation happens to feel?
Why should they not do, with coordination among themselves, with
a view to their own advantage?
On what grounds could the US, acting as it is now acting,
reasonably object?
MD926 rshowalter
3/11/01 5:02pm ... MD927 rshowalter
3/11/01 5:08pm MD2767 pbella
4/30/01 9:15am ... MD6561 rshowalter
7/4/01 8:35pm
rshowalter
- 01:50pm Sep 8, 2001 EST (#8661
of 8662) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
It is especially worth noting that treaties determine not only
money flows, but the mechanics of information flows, as well.
How many treaties, negotiated and often dictated by the US,
incorporate the sorts of provisions so beutifully set out in the
NUNN-WOLFOWITZ TASK FORCE REPORT: INDUSTRY "BEST PRACTICES"
REGARDING EXPORT COMPLIANCE PROGRAMS http://164.109.59.52/library/pdf/nunnwolfowitz.pdf
July 25, 2000
Set up with the detailed mechanics of interaction constrained in
such a way that some of the signatories are frozen out of
information exchanges on which their prosperity, safety, and
independence critically depends?
And how many of these arrangemetns are set up with that mechanics
also set out so that "little snippets" of background information,
such as those sometimes given in conversations with advisors from
Carlyle, can be very valuable? Elder Bush in Big GOP Cast
Toiling for Top Equity Firm by LESLIE WAYNE http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/05/politics/05CARL.html
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