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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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lunarchick
- 06:31am Sep 8, 2001 EST (#8648
of 8658) lunarchick@www.com
`She can't do Addition,' the Red Queen
interrupted. `Can you do Subtraction? Take nine from eight.'
`Nine from eight I can't, you know,' Alice replied very readily:
`but--'
`She can't do Subtraction,' said the White Queen. `Can you do
Division? Divide a loaf by a knife--what's the answer to that?'
`I suppose--' Alice was beginning, but the Red Queen answered for
her. `Bread-and-butter, of course. Try another Subtraction sum. Take
a bone from a dog: what remains?'
Alice considered. `The bone wouldn't remain, of course, if I took
it--and the dog wouldn't remain; it would come to bite me --and I'm
sure I shouldn't remain!'
`Then you think nothing would remain?' said the Red Queen.
`I think that's the answer.'
`Wrong, as usual,' said the Red Queen: `the dog's temper would
remain.' >>
................. and on and on it went .... but where's
it going ...... ?
lunarchick
- 06:57am Sep 8, 2001 EST (#8649
of 8658) lunarchick@www.com
'' she also admits the agency was "overenthusiastic" in
its targeting of leftwing groups during the cold war.
Extracts of Dame Stella's memoirs, which give a unique insight
into Whitehall's secret world, will appear exclusively in the
Guardian starting on Monday. She was the first director general
of MI5 to be officially identified and the first woman head of the
agency. She describes the traumatic experience of suddenly being
treated as an errant outsider as the Whitehall establishment tried
to persuade her not to publish her memoirs. ''
~ http://www.guardian.co.uk/freedom/Story/0,2763,548675,00.html
lunarchick
- 07:09am Sep 8, 2001 EST (#8650
of 8658) lunarchick@www.com
Beijing
Pacific_Islands
lunarchick
- 07:15am Sep 8, 2001 EST (#8651
of 8658) lunarchick@www.com
Wall
rshowalter
- 08:14am Sep 8, 2001 EST (#8652
of 8658) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The last week has made me very, very hopeful that things can be
sorted out in ways that will be good for the United States, good for
Russia and China, good for all the rest of the world - - that we can
come to reframings that are redemptive solutions.
I wish I could work a little faster, but the possibilities of
good resolutions, that Americans especially can be relieved
about and proud of is getting greater.
At the same time, when there are pattterns of lies that are
very dangerous, and longstanding, they have to be sorted out
if they bear on decisions for the future.
The situation discussed on this thread involves many lies,
together and interlocking, that do.
The worst that Eisenhower feared, the bad things the Eisenhower
warned us about in his Farewell Address , have happened.
On January 17, 1961, President Dwight D. Eisenhower gave his FAREWELL
ADRESS
MD862-864 rshowalter
3/7/01 6:48pm ... MD5539-5542 rshowalter
6/20/01 12:24pm MD8395 rshowalter
9/3/01 9:16pm ... MD8397 rshowalter
9/3/01 9:36pm MD8399 lunarchick
9/3/01 10:21pm ... MD8400 rshowalter
9/3/01 10:31pm
We have a mess. We need to sort it out. We can. Things will be
much better, and safer, for the United States and the whole world,
after we do.
rshowalter
- 08:16am Sep 8, 2001 EST (#8653
of 8658) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Satisfactory, honorable answers for a workable world, cannot be
found by actively suppressing every piece of information that might
be uncomfortable for members and ranking people in C.S.I.S. .
I have to believe that Ted Turner, if he was reasonably informed,
and especially after all the bad things that have happened to him
since January, would have to agree.
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