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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?


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lunarchick - 06:31am Sep 8, 2001 EST (#8648 of 8658)
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`She can't do Addition,' the Red Queen interrupted. `Can you do Subtraction? Take nine from eight.'

`Nine from eight I can't, you know,' Alice replied very readily: `but--'

`She can't do Subtraction,' said the White Queen. `Can you do Division? Divide a loaf by a knife--what's the answer to that?'

`I suppose--' Alice was beginning, but the Red Queen answered for her. `Bread-and-butter, of course. Try another Subtraction sum. Take a bone from a dog: what remains?'

Alice considered. `The bone wouldn't remain, of course, if I took it--and the dog wouldn't remain; it would come to bite me --and I'm sure I shouldn't remain!'

`Then you think nothing would remain?' said the Red Queen.

`I think that's the answer.'

`Wrong, as usual,' said the Red Queen: `the dog's temper would remain.' >>

    ................. and on and
    on it went .... but where's
    it going ...... ?

lunarchick - 06:57am Sep 8, 2001 EST (#8649 of 8658)
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'' she also admits the agency was "overenthusiastic" in its targeting of leftwing groups during the cold war.

    Extracts of Dame Stella's memoirs, which give a unique insight into Whitehall's secret world, will appear exclusively in the Guardian starting on Monday.
She was the first director general of MI5 to be officially identified and the first woman head of the agency. She describes the traumatic experience of suddenly being treated as an errant outsider as the Whitehall establishment tried to persuade her not to publish her memoirs. ''
    ~ http://www.guardian.co.uk/freedom/Story/0,2763,548675,00.html

    lunarchick - 07:09am Sep 8, 2001 EST (#8650 of 8658)
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    Beijing Pacific_Islands

    lunarchick - 07:15am Sep 8, 2001 EST (#8651 of 8658)
    lunarchick@www.com

    Wall

    rshowalter - 08:14am Sep 8, 2001 EST (#8652 of 8658) Delete Message
    Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

    The last week has made me very, very hopeful that things can be sorted out in ways that will be good for the United States, good for Russia and China, good for all the rest of the world - - that we can come to reframings that are redemptive solutions.

    I wish I could work a little faster, but the possibilities of good resolutions, that Americans especially can be relieved about and proud of is getting greater.

    At the same time, when there are pattterns of lies that are very dangerous, and longstanding, they have to be sorted out if they bear on decisions for the future.

    The situation discussed on this thread involves many lies, together and interlocking, that do.

    The worst that Eisenhower feared, the bad things the Eisenhower warned us about in his Farewell Address , have happened.

    On January 17, 1961, President Dwight D. Eisenhower gave his FAREWELL ADRESS

    MD862-864 rshowalter 3/7/01 6:48pm ... MD5539-5542 rshowalter 6/20/01 12:24pm
    MD8395 rshowalter 9/3/01 9:16pm ... MD8397 rshowalter 9/3/01 9:36pm
    MD8399 lunarchick 9/3/01 10:21pm ... MD8400 rshowalter 9/3/01 10:31pm

    We have a mess. We need to sort it out. We can. Things will be much better, and safer, for the United States and the whole world, after we do.

    rshowalter - 08:16am Sep 8, 2001 EST (#8653 of 8658) Delete Message
    Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

    Satisfactory, honorable answers for a workable world, cannot be found by actively suppressing every piece of information that might be uncomfortable for members and ranking people in C.S.I.S. .

    I have to believe that Ted Turner, if he was reasonably informed, and especially after all the bad things that have happened to him since January, would have to agree.

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