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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 08:38pm Sep 7, 2001 EST (#8623
of 8643) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
" ``It's an absolute encouragement to the
Russians to be obstructionist and to demand more of the president
before they give in on this issue,'' said Sen. Jeff Sessions,
R-Ala.
Comment: Here is a chance to show such positions wrong - with
voices like Senator Session's encouraged, on the record, in formats
that can be made clearly available for everyone on the internet to
see.
" Bush is trying to strike a deal with the
Russians to replace the ABM treaty with an arrangement that allows
for national missile defense.
" Levin said the provision was a last
resort given the Bush administration's failure to tell
Congress -- despite repeated requests -- which planned missile
defense activities would conflict with the treaty.
" ``This does not give the Russians leverage,''
he said. ``It gives Congress a voice to act responsibly,''
enabling lawmakers to know whether they were supporting treaty
violations.
" Warner's amendment to delete the vote was
defeated on a party-line vote.
" The $343 billion measure would cover both the
Defense Department and defense work done by the Energy Department
for the next fiscal year.
" On missile defense, the bill would cut $1.3
billion from Bush's request to increase funding by $3 billion to
$8.3 billion. Another party-line vote rejected Warner's attempt to
restore $1 billion.
" Despite the cut, Levin said, ``We're giving
him the largest increase of probably any program in the defense
budget.''
" The House Armed Services Committee last month
voted to cut $135 million from the missile defense request.
" In many areas, the committee provided more
money than Bush requested, including $700 million to improve
compensation and quality of life for service members and their
families and $800 million to advance the transformation to
lighter, more lethal and capable forces.
" Such additions would be paid for with $1.3
billion from missile defense, $592 million from the troubled V-22
tilt-rotor Osprey aircraft program, $247 million from the Joint
Strike Fighter and $1.6 billion in savings from better commercial
practices.
" As for base closings, the committee approved
one round that would be delayed until 2003 to accommodate changes
in military forces prompted by ongoing Defense Department strategy
reviews, Levin said.
" The procedures would be the same as previous
ones, with a special panel selecting the bases and up-or-down
decisions by Congress and the president on the entire list.
" Pentagon officials say up to 25 percent of
facilities are not needed and billions could be saved by closing
them.
" The House committee, hoping to stave off more
closings, deliberately omitted mention of them in its bill.
almarst-2001
- 08:38pm Sep 7, 2001 EST (#8624
of 8643)
In a past 10 years, AFTER the end of a Cold War, the US twice was
engaged in a HOT war. The second time it was even without a UN
resolution, against all international laws and based on gross
falcifications. For the first time since WWII the civilians where
and the civilian infrastructure where the main target. The only
nation in Europe who staied against Hitler and Stalin, who payed a
huge price for fighting the Nazis and saving the American and
British pilots where bombed by the sones of those saved pilots.
rshowalter
- 08:42pm Sep 7, 2001 EST (#8625
of 8643) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
For adversarial interactions, or deception, such a line of
communication would be useless (short term advantage there might be
-- long term, deception in such a channel would be punished.)
But for exploring what win-win adjustments might be, this
channel could be a very good one -- and especially so if everyone
involved was invited in, to state things clearly.
Especially "adversaries" -- who would have a chance to state
their case, and even a chance to modify their opinions, as all
involved would have a chance to do.
The internet's advantages of increased memory, and increased
use to access and organize complexity, could be well used here.
The exchange might also be entertaining to voters, and local news
organizations -- serving the interests of the Senators and
Representatives, and the public interest as well.
It would be an awkward medium for lying.
rshowalter
- 08:46pm Sep 7, 2001 EST (#8626
of 8643) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
almarst, http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?224@184.4O1UaYMFuKr^151527@354441@.f0ce57b
.. , do you and the people you are in contact have any question that
there are many good things about America?
Don't you appreciate these, and hope to emulate them, even as you
want to eliminate US military agressiveness?
You aren't forgetting the good things about America, are
you?
rshowalter
- 08:48pm Sep 7, 2001 EST (#8627
of 8643) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
You aren't forgetting some bad things about the Russian past, are
you?
I haven't noticed that you were.
The good and bad coexist, are often somewhat independent, and you
try to do the best you can, right?
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