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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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lunarchick
- 09:22pm Sep 5, 2001 EST (#8526
of 8536) lunarchick@www.com
Back to lawyers: ..
Secrets, Too ...
Existing federal criminal law states that
whoever has "information relating to the national defense" and has
"reason to believe [it] could be used to the injury of the United
States or to the advantage of any foreign nation" and "willfully"
transmits that information to "any person not entitled to receive
it" shall be ... etc
term "national defense" has been broadly defined
by the courts, and "advantage" to a foreign nation need not be
disadvantageous to the United States
leaks
“Sometimes we can't respond to stories based on leaks” (Ronald
Reagan).
bits of information can, when assembled together,
be deemed classifed under the so-called mosaic
theory
different agencies to assign different
classification levels to essentially the same information
lunarchick
- 09:53pm Sep 5, 2001 EST (#8527
of 8536) lunarchick@www.com
Seems here that if GeorgeWilly an American innovates a string
with extra 'twang' and lets Harold of Hastings in on the act ...
then GeorgeWilly could be thrown in a steel-box - to rot!
But what if the twanging string had multiple applications?
Comes back to the point that anything the USA deems to be
classified immediately has 'value' and can be sold. One would
assume, that in this day and age, when hackers can break through
firewalls .. there'd be more USA classified outside the gvt domain
than in it.
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Looking along the line of data/information/knowledge/wisdom ..
information is very basic ... thinking of this in pyramid terms,
data and information underpin knowledge ...
Is 'knowing' arrived at via deduction .. or visa vers via
induction.
data information knowledge wisdom knowledge information data
Take Solomon .. was he born with a wisdom gene? Did he have a
framework of wisdom into which he fitted knowledge, information,
data? Was he a top down or bottom up thinker?
Is there really a linear association, or, is arriving at
understandings, fitting the bits and pieces over time, somewhat more
varied or complex?
Back to governments. Is the 'information' they classify unique to
them .. or, can it be gathered by most folks via a common
environment.
Is there such a thing as 'information' that can be isolated, or
is it a factor/s from a holistic environment. Note how different
agencies classify 'the same' at different levels. How does a snippet
of info fit in with the needs of each organisation - who determines?
Can holding and locking information - that has general
application - actually paralyse a National economy. Isn't this the
way with stem cell research matters currently. The more the USA
plays games .. the weaker it becomes as holistic factors such as
cash for research move off-shore.
Is the USA due for reformatting wrt it's attitudes to 'secrecy'.
Does the existing paralytic structure fulfil a function, or, should
it be scrapped and a new perspective employed?
It seems the USA has moved in a few short months from a position
where it held Superpower status and rank, to one of pariah - it has
'Texicuted' itself!
Freedom of information, the ability of people to freely talk on
issues (as per London Guardian) is the base that underpins
individual freedom in truely democratic societies - isn't that so
Alex?
lunarchick
- 09:55pm Sep 5, 2001 EST (#8528
of 8536) lunarchick@www.com
Flashy
lunarchick
- 10:05pm Sep 5, 2001 EST (#8529
of 8536) lunarchick@www.com
Hyde
Park Corner and free speech
... essential to democracy.
lunarchick
- 10:11pm Sep 5, 2001 EST (#8530
of 8536) lunarchick@www.com
Missile Defence - too ugly a concept to feature here? see
Speaker's Corner In 1866 Edmund Beales' Reform
League had marched on Hyde Park where great scuffles broke out
between the league and the police. Eventually the Prime Minister
rescinded and allowed the meetings to continue. Since 1872, people
have been allowed to speak at speakers corner on any subject they
want to.
lunarchick
- 10:24pm Sep 5, 2001 EST (#8531
of 8536) lunarchick@www.com
Close Shave:
1. A U-brain at the U-Adelaide flying school
determined to start the plane's motor by hand, he pulled down on
the propeller ... not having put chocks under the wheel .. the
plane moved forward .. along the line of the U's half dozen parked
planes. The propeller sliced through each plane as it passed. News
pictures revealed the art-works it created ... the greatest ever
since sliced bread! Plane and cucumber, or plane and tomato?
2. The woman who told Martin Luther king that
she'd had a dream .. isn't the only one to dream in the USA ...
where information and knowledge can drift down from the sky: see
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