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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

lunarchick - 02:30am Sep 5, 2001 EST (#8492 of 8505)
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Map/index see

rshowalter - 07:58am Sep 5, 2001 EST (#8493 of 8505)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

What a great job MSNBC has done with http://www.msnbc.com/news/warroom_front.asp?0sp=n5b1

almarst , I'm deeply honored that you're back.

I'm having to spend some time reading, and thinking, and sorting some things out. This is a hopeful, but dangerous time.

almarst , did you read the Nuclear Threat Initiative's mission statement? Think what would happen, if they really did what they say there, with courage and flexibility, and multiple pathing when it makes sense, with the stakes as they are, to investigate different possibilities?

They have the funding and connections to do what Ted Turner asked them to do, with the world situation evolving as it is. rshowalter 9/4/01 11:11am

rshowalter - 08:01am Sep 5, 2001 EST (#8494 of 8505)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

It's going to take me a little while to respond to some of the beautiful postings here, but while I do, points in these postings occur to me:

MD8402 rshowalter 9/3/01 10:40pm ... MD8403 lunarchick 9/3/01 10:42pm
MD8404 rshowalter 9/3/01 10:46pm ... MD8405 rshowalter 9/3/01 10:50pm
MD8408 lunarchick 9/3/01 11:21pm ... MD8409 rshowalter 9/3/01 11:26pm

MD7380 rshowalter 7/24/01 11:08am ... MD7381 rshowalter 7/24/01 1:34pm

We need "islands of technical fact" that are "beyond politics" but that can constrain the logic of political discourse -- so that lies cannot be so easily told and sold. We can work for practical improvements, on a well grounded basis, from there.

690602 - 08:24am Sep 5, 2001 EST (#8495 of 8505)

Can pages speak now? It sound ridiculous now. But I have the same faith in believing oneday the pages on the screens will interactive with me, as that in seeing oneday the missiles lauched from Alaska destroying the incoming warheads, with her intelligences, or whatsoever called.

lunarchick - 08:30am Sep 5, 2001 EST (#8496 of 8505)
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.. should read "with her alluring intelligences" .. so said the C..I..A in a todayPost above. If there's an alluring missile, then she, would have to have an alluring voice ... perhaps the velvet scrubbing brush vocal sound ?

lunarchick - 09:02am Sep 5, 2001 EST (#8497 of 8505)
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Bwsh is so stimulating that our Primate Prime Minister has cut 5 days off his upcoming USA tour. Howard is due to call an election .. riding on the sheep's back (USA shillyshallying re Lamb & Free Trade), and riding on the backs of illegal immigrants.

Anyone thought to put a value on the Indian Ocean's sunken ship of refugees?

These guys have just featured in the Norwegian Election, will in the up coming Aussie election, and perhaps others upcoming in the SouthEast Pacific. additional to this is their value as educated/skilled/breathing families/people.

rshowalter - 09:08am Sep 5, 2001 EST (#8498 of 8505)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

It is impractical to be too dismissive about the value of people. And also ugly .

We're at a time of great danger, where there are signs of group insanity, and the grossest kind of bad faith, in the control group of the United States government. Perhaps it only appears that way. But it is a time to be careful, where judgement ( http://www.wisc.edu/rshowalt/sermon.html ) is vital.

We're dealing with issues of war and peace, hope and dispair, life and death, and some of Tolstoy's thoughts, seen in a hopeful way, are relevant here.

MD6917 lunarchick 7/11/01 8:53am ... MD6924 rshowalter 7/11/01 12:42pm
MD6925 rshowalter 7/11/01 12:44pm .... (and some postings following.)

We need to be careful (in all the senses of that word) and responsible as human beings -- practical, not fatalistic.

These are vital issues - - issues of life and death - - with new opportunities and challenges, in our time.

We have reason to be careful. With these stakes, and mistakes and lies of the magnitude involved here being made and told, the world could end.

We can see that it doesn't, and we must.

almarst-2001 - 04:01pm Sep 5, 2001 EST (#8499 of 8505)

US Echelon spy network a fact, European Parliament told - http://asia.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/technology/afp/article.html?s=asia/headlines/010905/technology/afp/US_Echelon_spy_network_a_fact__European_Parliament_told.html

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