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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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applez101
- 02:59pm Sep 2, 2001 EST (#8331
of 8347)
I suggest everyone got to economist.com and check out their
article/opinion piece on Russia's future role in all this.
BTW, has anyone considered how much of this could have been
avoided if Dubya had the acumen to wrap this up as 'an opportunity
for the world to move beyond limiting and endangering Cold War era
treaties' and to 'invite Russia, China, Britain, France, India,
Pakistan, Israel, etc. to help forge a new system of global
security...'???
-There is a definite value to rhetoric!
'Course, that presumes that this administration can do anything
better than stumble into things like a bull in a china closet. :)
rshowalter
- 02:59pm Sep 2, 2001 EST (#8332
of 8347) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
rgbrasel
9/2/01 2:46pm to make terrorist cells unlikely, and to maximize
the chance of neutalizing them, you need a broad consensus that what
they are doing is unacceptable. The US has long done and is doing
many things to make enemies, and to destroy the consensus that is
the most important protection we can have from nuclear terror
groups.
rshowalter
- 03:09pm Sep 2, 2001 EST (#8333
of 8347) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
applez's reference
RUSSIA'S FOREIGN POLICY . . . Can Russia handle a
changed world? Aug 30th 2001 ... From The Economist print
edition
Missile-defence talks and NATO enlargement will test Russia’s
new pragmatism http://economist.com/opinion/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=760307
rshowalter
- 03:16pm Sep 2, 2001 EST (#8334
of 8347) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
applez101
9/2/01 2:59pm makes a fine suggestion:
" BTW, has anyone considered how much of this
could have been avoided if Dubya had the acumen to wrap this up as
'an opportunity for the world to move beyond limiting and
endangering Cold War era treaties' and to 'invite Russia, China,
Britain, France, India, Pakistan, Israel, etc. to help forge a new
system of global security...'??? "
That would fit well with suggestions, much discussed on this
thread, about a "dry run"
" Crafting a fully workable, fully complete, fully
explained "draft treaty proposal" for nuclear disarmament and a
more militarily stable world. "
md8296 rshowalter
9/1/01 1:39pm
burppp
- 03:21pm Sep 2, 2001 EST (#8335
of 8347)
Yes, this is SDI all over again. Bush is nostalgic for the Cold
War and he'll do anything to resurrect the arms race of the
eighties.
timray1
- 03:45pm Sep 2, 2001 EST (#8336
of 8347)
The missile defense proposal isn't worth a puddle of spit. How
can we pour money down this rat hole while there are so many school
systems that need money and children going hungry. This president is
taking us down a very dangerous road. Wake-up America! We need to
dump this bum!
rshowalter
- 03:45pm Sep 2, 2001 EST (#8337
of 8347) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
But things are easier to check for and harder to
hide than they were in the 80's.
Things can be checked . They should be checked.
Some technical facts can be checked, and established clearly, at
a level beyond politics. It would take some resources - - only a
tiny amount, compared to the stakes. It should be done.
MD8211- 8216 rshowalter
8/28/01 5:35pm
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