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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rgbrasel
- 09:42am Aug 31, 2001 EST (#8262
of 8264) RGBrasel@hotmail.com
I think our defense policy makers are missing the point: there
are currently no present threats to the US from nuclear-tipped
ballistic missiles. A nation exists to preserve itself, and I don't
think that North Korea or Iraq is willing to risk incurring our
Response-In-Kind policy. It is conceivable that a low-yield
(40-60kt) missile could be launched against a friendly target, but
our response would be overwhelming. Let's see--let's nuke Dhaharan,
and sacrifice everything within a 50 mile radius of Baghdad. I
hardly think that Hussein is considering that. (And don't even think
of the destruction if a nuke is launched against Israel.)
The threat is real from terrorist attacks such as the one on the
USS Cole. With less than 250,000 US Dollars, a terrorist can use a
Scarab boat, a heavy machine gun (such as a Russian KPV), and strafe
the conning tower of an AEGIS cruiser, disabling the bridge--and the
comm equipment, radar, etc. It's very cheap to disable enemy
equipment (e.g., multimillion dollar guided missile destroyers) with
a minimum of low-tech equipment, a complete disregard for one's own
life, and the will to carry out the mission. That's the real and
present threat our soldiers and citizens overseas face day to day,
and I'm afraid that no matter what security measures are taken, we
will never completely remove the threat of terrorism. But this is
where we must spend our defense dollars--on the real threat, not on
a percieved threat and a specious proposal. A so-called national
missile shield isn't impervious. One or two major nuclear strikes on
our major population centers could effectively paralyze our country.
A hurricane is one thing, but FEMA would be hard pressed to respond
to a nuclear airburst over Los Angeles and San Francisco. In one
instant, the power grid of the West Coast and the technology
industry in Sunnyvale would be knocked out by the EMP, as well as
the military bases in and around Los Angeles (possibly as far as
Twentynine Palms). The immediate deaths would probably number in the
hundreds of thousands. . . However, this is a fantastic scenario. We
should proceed with the research--there's no doubt that it would be
useful in protecting the space station or even the planet against
celestial objects--but let's be realistic. Let's face the immediate
threat first.
rshowalter
- 09:52am Aug 31, 2001 EST (#8263
of 8264) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
And we should do research on things that have a chance of
working.
Lots of things that "work on paper" have problems in the actual
building. But if calculations show that some specific project is
very unlikely, for a clear reason - - then that reason has to be
dealt with. If the problem is "swept under the rug," any money spent
on that project is overwhelmingly likely to be wasted.
In missile defense, the administration is asking people, again
and again, to bet on projects that are grossly improbable, given the
technical problems.
That's no service to the United States of America -- putting the
matter gently.
applez101
- 02:07pm Aug 31, 2001 EST (#8264
of 8264)
Thought experiment -
Okay, let's place ourselves in the minds of a potential adversary
and ask the following questions:
a) What is your international objective?
b) What is the best means of achieving that goal?
In the case of a national entity, such 'rogues' as Kaddafi or
Hussein, missile technology is within reach, as are various WMD
opportunities. However, being a national entity, it has no interest
in putting an end to that existence, something guaranteed through
MAD.
So, if your goal is to increase your nation's profile, and/or
reduce the bite of international sanctions; one has to turn to more
duplicitious and unorthodox methods.
For a start, violence is counter-productive, the threat of
violence is much more useful. So, large-scale sabre-rattling,
regional destabilization through resource-transfers and political
dialogue are better techniques: and ones employed by both example
personalities.
If one is a sophisticated 'rogue' nation - one could employ
biological, chemical, and IT methods to unbalance your foes: and
with little ability for them to trace these attacks back to you.
The more likely threat of actual violence, then, comes from
parties with a less vulnerable profile: proto-national and ethnic
terrorist groups with precious little to lose, and losing one's life
for a cause is considered a good trade.
Yet, in the case of such groups as the IRA, even they recognized
the futility of provoking actual violence and instead resorted to
terrorism in the truest sense. That this has more or less lead to a
successful political dialogue is a testament to the validity of this
strategy - albeit with such drawbacks as splinter groups and Omagh.
Frankly, it is the more stupid and unsophisticated groups that
are of greater concern: such as Bin Laden (solitary cause is killing
Americans as far as the public knows) or McVeigh (tiny group, hard
to trace, and rudimentary 'anti-government' stance: no interest in
promoting reform through legitimate political means).
Furthermore, we would do well to worry more about domestic
terrorism more: and the best solution there is education and
enfranchisement, not surveillance and further militarization of your
police forces.
As for foreign threats: sure there have been domestic attacks,
but those have largely been unsuccessful or incomplete in relation
to the scope of the original plans. Richer targets are US personnel
overseas - and unfortunately this involves reducing America's
ability to properly do its business overseas (in the case of
embassies especially) - but better intelligence is more useful than
more bomb barricades, IMHO.
Lastly, missiles? Why bother? They're big, expensive, easy to
trace, hard to assemble, (thanks in part to the numerous enforced
treaties concerning these technologies) and not all that conducive
to the sorts of strategies and tactics I illustrated earlier.
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