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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 09:24pm Aug 25, 2001 EST (#8135
of 8151) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
We could all be much more polite -- and accomodations would be
easier -- if there were "islands of technical fact, beyond
question." MD7936 rshowalter
8/20/01 9:08pm
The difficulties with establishing these "islands" are much more
social than technical. But we need them.
Perhaps we're making progress toward them.
In a "the emperor's new clothes" story, people are afraid
of the emperor, and afraid to believe their own eyes. Afraid of
obvious interpretations that don't glorify the status quo.
That fear is eroded by an accumulation of observations, and
social interactions. And eventually, a time comes when people
have to courage to see what they've been seeing, and denying, for
some while.
"Chain Breakers." http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/618
become fewer, and an idea that used to be a "fizzle" detonates.
A new idea, truer than the old one, takes hold.
When that occurs -- reframings, new solutions, "secular
redemptions" become possible -- and happen many, many times a day,
as people adjust to the world as it actually is. Secular
Redemption: http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?13@@.ee79f4e/619
The alternatives to getting to truth, when stakes are high, can
be ugly. MD1023 rshowalter
3/15/01 10:23am
In order to make some money, and preserve a status quo long since
corrupt, people are telling some very ornate lies, and risking the
survival of the world. I wish the search capability was
re-established here, so people could read the statements of
gisterme , and put them in context.
There are truths that can be established, but we have to work
through some fears, to face them.
rshowalter
- 09:55pm Aug 25, 2001 EST (#8136
of 8151) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD7641 rshowalter
7/31/01 9:00am ... MD7644 rshowalter
7/31/01 9:16am MD7491 rshowalter
7/27/01 10:17am
It has to become more legitimate to question the legitimacy of
the military industrial complex - both contractors and the military.
The potential for impropriety is clear, but not widely
understood. Patterns such as that shown in Elder Bush in Big
G.O.P. Cast Toiling for Top Equity Firm by LESLIE WAYNE March 5,
2001 http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/05/politics/05CARL.html?pagewanted=all
are ugly , and barely concealed, because they've been
"standard operating procedure" long enough that people have stopped
concealing some things that would have been considered terrible not
so long ago.
The culture of some of the "military industrial complex" -
including the intelligence community - has felt invulnerable for a
long time -- immune from the ordinary decencies involved in
considering others for a long time, or essays like FLYING INTO
TURBULENCE by Peter Martin http://www.intellnet.org/news/articles/peter.martin.flying.into.turbulence.html
couldn't be written, and featured in the "respectable" places where
they are.
It may be that, as people in other countries become more aware
of these patterns, and less tolerant of them, the climate of
American opinion will start to shift in response.
rshowalter
- 09:56pm Aug 25, 2001 EST (#8137
of 8151) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Overselling has become a way of life in the military-industrial
complex: MD7486 rshowalter
7/27/01 8:29am
MD7058 rshowalter
7/15/01 1:34pm
rshowalter
- 09:57pm Aug 25, 2001 EST (#8138
of 8151) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The "culture of lying" in journalism: MD6475 rshowalter
7/3/01 10:51am
rshowalter
- 09:58pm Aug 25, 2001 EST (#8139
of 8151) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The . FAREWELL ADDRESS of President Dwight D. Eisenhower
January 17, 1961 http://www.geocities.com/~newgeneration/ikefw.htm
... bears reading now. The warnings Eisenhower gave were not
heeded, and we're having to deal with the consequences now.
MD7197 rshowalter
7/19/01 8:10am ... MD7198 rshowalter
7/19/01 8:11am MD7199 rshowalter
7/19/01 8:38am ... MD7200 rshowalter
7/19/01 8:44am
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