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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 05:36pm Aug 23, 2001 EST (#8065
of 8070) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Since July 4th, The New York Times -- Science -- Missile Defense
forum has had 1500 postings - many extensive. These include useful
comments from almarst , our "Putin stand in" , and
gisterme , our "Bush administration high official stand-in."
MD7098 rshowalter
7/16/01 7:52pm .. contains a critique and a challenge. I point
out the power that one person, willing to be at risk, can sometimes
have, by means of a famous picture of defiance more eloquent than
any words I could muster. http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sdc/tank-1.jpg
MD7100 rshowalter
7/16/01 8:41pm sets out directories, and the key story set out
in this thread, where I've said many of the most important things
I'd like people to know.
including the key story, #13.. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?7@@.ee7a163/13
... to #23.. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?7@@.ee7a163/24
and note #26 ...
Summaries and links to the Science - Missile Defense thread are
set out from #153 int the Guardian Talk thread Psychwar,
Casablanca, and Terror , starting at #151 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/160
MD7144-48 rshowalter
7/17/01 7:13pm contains working summaries, and a working
objective of the Science - MD thread:
To clean up the messes left by the Cold War, and make better
security possible, communication has to happen between the staffs of
nation states. The Missile Defense thread is built as an example of
what would be required to meet the needs of this staffed
communication.
Does the format work? Is the thread worth the effort? In some
ways, I think the answer is yes. Truths, that seem perfectly clear,
are not being sufficiently influential -- they remain "somehow, too
weak." ... MD6670 rshowalter
7/6/01 11:44am
Bertotdt Brecht's essay, WRITING THE TRUTH, FIVE
DIFFICULTIES is in my version of his play, GALILEO , set into
English by Charles Laughton, and includes this:
" It takes courage to say that the good were
defeated not because they were good, but because they were weak."
When the truth is too weak, we have to ask: why? Was it indeed
the truth? Or were there systematic barriers to the propagation of
the truth -- chain breakers?
Fear is a problem, and a deeply embedded one, all through the
system, for journalists, for members of the government, and for
people who depend on the government (that is, all of us.) And
reluctance to face new ideas is, as well.
I think some may enjoy "Chain Breakers" . http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?13@@.ee79f4e/618
in this regard. This summary contains links that I feel are
particularly interesting: MD6613-6614 rshowalter
7/4/01 11:46pm
wrcooper
- 05:39pm Aug 23, 2001 EST (#8066
of 8070)
See the 2001 Pentagon Annual Report,
Chapter 6, on missile defense.
What came through to me was that the biggest concern of the DOD
is not the threat to the US from ICBMs, particularly from Korea, but
the threat to the ability of the US to project power elsewhere in
the world. I got the impression that most of the defensive weapons
would be used to guard allies.
This makes sense to me. All of us have criticized the NMD program
as a waste, since an adversary wishing to attack US soil would be
more likely to use a poor man's delivery system, such as a smuggled
backpack with a nuclear weapon in it, than a missile. But where a
missile-toting state could gain real advantage would be in places
like the middle east, where the threat of a short range missile
launch could seriously affect the stability of the region. If Iran
or Iraq had a missile capable of carrying a nuke to London or Paris,
that would undoubtedly influence how our European allies behaved
toward Israel, etc. So if a nuclear defensive capability existed,
that might assuage some of the nervousness that a nuclear missile
capability in the hands of terrorist states would provoke.
None of this addresses the technical problems we've discussed.
The tec hnical hurdles to poducing a viable shield remain daunting.
How to overcome decoys is a question nobody has answered.
But I think it possible, even likely, that a missile defense
capability is aimed more at preventing destabilization in troubled
areas than it is at protecting US cities and civilian populations. I
mean, the people in the Pentagon aren't stupid. Then again, it could
be just about filling the feeding troughs for the military
industrial complex. However, they could find other programs besides
NMD to accomplish that goal, so they must think that NMD is needed
somehow.
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