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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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cbpgag6
- 10:38am Aug 22, 2001 EST (#8005
of 8012)
Don't you bozo's get it? The Russians are not the threat, it is
the Irans, the Iraqs, the North Koreans, stupid. To hell with a 30
year old treaty that should never have been agreed to anyway. A
treaty that limits one's right to defend one's self is and was
stupid to begin with. Our Allies, bull, they wrote the book on being
self-serving and selfish. But, despite it all, we'll be there to
protect them against themselves again. Besides, do you idiots really
care what Europe thinks? Why? Here is a continent of people that
started 2 world wars, still practice ethnic cleansing, and believed
in the Master Race. At our worse, we hold no candle to them.
rshowalter
- 10:44am Aug 22, 2001 EST (#8006
of 8012) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Partly is was desperate fear of the nuclear threats from the
United States. Fear so great, in important circles, that it caused
people to take desperate risks, and impose great costs.
A crucial fact, not technical, but very important, that Americans
need to understand, and deal with, is that the US worked hard, and
very effectively, to MAXIMIZE the fear of nuclear destruction in
Russia, and MINIMIZE it in the United States.
Russians need a great deal of reassurance , and the United
States needs to understand how dangerous the situation IS - - and
will remain -- until the US and Russia (with other countries, too)
cooperate enough to control, reduce, and even eliminate nuclear
terror.
Threatening Russia, given the past, is NOT the thing to do,
either practically, or in terms of reasonable human feelings.
The Cold War, including the psychological warfare of the Cold
War, should be over, and healable wounds should be healed.
That will take some effort.
And reassurance has a technical component -- something
important to get both sides "to their senses" about what
there is to fear, to hope, and to reasonably do.
rshowalter
- 10:47am Aug 22, 2001 EST (#8007
of 8012) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
cbpgag6
8/22/01 10:38am I hope many Europeans, and Asians, too, read
what you say, and what people like you say - - and take reasonable
steps to defend THEIR own interests -- something that stability and
peace requires.
Postings like yours are worth a great deal -- in informing
Russians, and Europeans, about how reasonably they can trust the
United States, without checking it.
lunarchick
- 10:49am Aug 22, 2001 EST (#8008
of 8012) lunarchick@www.com
Computer rote learning facts : http://www.linguafranca.com/print/0109/cover.html
Will Ari ever ask the right questions? http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0803-04.htm
bilbobaggins0
- 10:49am Aug 22, 2001 EST (#8009
of 8012) Bush is NOT my president.
cbpgag6
8/22/01 10:38am
Unilateral withdrawal from a treaty is always a dangerous
business, as long-term trust is lost as a result - and further
treaties may be impossible to negotiate.
rshowalter
- 10:56am Aug 22, 2001 EST (#8010
of 8012) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD5363 almarst-2001
6/18/01 1:07pm
Consider the golden rule - - even with potential enemies.
Russia and the US both have problems, internally and with each
other.
lunarchick
- 11:12am Aug 22, 2001 EST (#8011
of 8012) lunarchick@www.com
Turs 1.30 am ... nite!
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