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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
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- 07:07pm Aug 19, 2001 EST (#7918
of 7932) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
"On Aug. 19, 1991, they put Gorbachev under house arrest.
Tanks entered Moscow.
"Yeltsin, then president of the Russian Federation, one of the
15 Soviet republics, hoisted his burly frame atop a tank. He
denounced the coup plotters. Supporters streamed in, sticking
flowers in tank guns and building barricades. International
condemnation mounted.
"Two days later the coup was defeated. Gorbachev was back, but
irreparably weakened. On Dec. 25, 1991, he resigned and declared the
USSR defunct.
"In the decade since, Soviet satellite nations in Eastern and
Central Europe, and the former Soviet republics in the Baltics, have
largely embraced democracy and free-market economies. And most are
thriving.
"But Russia and former Soviet republics in Central Asia and
the Caucasus have atrophied under economic crises, separatist wars
and the collapse of ties among the former republics.
"``Ordinary people got nothing'' from the Soviet Union's
demise, Yuri Yerushov, a 48-year-old unemployed man who was among
the White House defenders in 1991, said Sunday.
"The coup plotters gathered last month to defend their
actions, saying the ensuing economic meltdown and a string of armed
conflicts in Russia and other former Soviet republics proved they
were right in trying to stem the Soviet breakup.
"That theme was echoed Sunday in a rally staged by
ultranationalist Vladimir Zhirinovsky.
"``Democracy has been all lies, and what we see is a rotting,
degrading country. We have witnessed a decade of political and moral
corruption, banditry, alcoholism and AIDS,'' he told the crowd of
about 100 people.
"Outside Moscow few anniversary commemorations were
planned.
"Estonian President Lennart Meri was to hold a dinner
commemorating his country's 10 years of independence and Riga, the
capital of neighboring Latvia, is holding a gala celebration of its
800th birthday.
"In Belarus on Sunday, 12 opposition activists picketed the
country's KGB -- which still goes by its Soviet name -- and Interior
Ministry headquarters, to protest President Alexander Lukashenko's
rigid, Soviet-style policies. Five were detained and later
released.
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My background: MD6397 rshowalter
7/2/01 8:00am ... MD6498 rshowalter
7/2/01 8:00am MD6399 rshowalter
7/2/01 8:02am ... MD6400 rshowalter
7/2/01 8:02am
When the Soviet Union fell, and everyone, on all sides, had so
much hope, we didn't have an end game -- and the United States
was so tied up with lies, that it could not sort out problems before
it -- or help the Russians sort out their problems.
My relationship with Bill Casey: MD6057 rshowalter
6/26/01 7:22am ... MD6370 rshowalter
7/1/01 7:19am MD6371 rshowalter
7/1/01 7:19am ... MD6373 lunarchick
7/1/01 8:07am MD7385 rshowalter
7/24/01 8:13pm ...
MD7386 rshowalter
7/24/01 8:14pm
An attempt to orient "almarst" - - - the "Putin stand-in"
on this forum -- with information Dawn and I hoped might be useful
to the real Vladimir Putin. MD7388 rshowalter
7/24/01 8:17pm ... MD7389 rshowalter
7/24/01 8:18pm MD7390 rshowalter
7/24/01 8:20p
rshowalter
- 07:11pm Aug 19, 2001 EST (#7919
of 7932) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD6058 rshowalter
6/26/01 7:23am I'd like to post links to a Guardian thread
where I've said many of the most important things I'd like people to
know. Psychwarfare, Casablanca -- and terror http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/0
including the key story, #13.. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?7@@.ee7a163/13
... to #23.. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?7@@.ee7a163/24
note #26 ... http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/25
On nuclear disarmament: MD7394 rshowalter
7/24/01 10:04pm
I believe that this is a time with creative opportunities, where
it may be possible to sort out a few problems, long a source of
horror, so that the world can be somewhat more productive, somewhat
safer, and somewhat less ugly than before.
The cold war should be over. The main barrier to ending it,
now, is fictions - lies, that have gone on too long.
There are reasons for optimism -- some covered recently in the
TIMES.
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