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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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lunarchick
- 08:23pm Aug 7, 2001 EST (#7776
of 7787) lunarchick@www.com
Seems that Foundation type work hasn't taken the paperless route:
Nonprofits & Social Enterprise Direct Marketing for
Nonprofits: Essential Techniques for the New Era by Kay Partney
Lautman Aspen Publishers, Inc., 2001 ~ http://hbswk.hbs.edu/topic.jhtml?t=nonprofit
Why nonprofits can't cut corners on direct mail
lunarchick
- 08:56pm Aug 7, 2001 EST (#7777
of 7787) lunarchick@www.com
Social
Engineering!
lunarchick
- 09:13pm Aug 7, 2001 EST (#7778
of 7787) lunarchick@www.com
China
" ... branches of the Falun Gong, a spiritual sect
outlawed in China, claim that local supporters are being interned
right now in the Moganshan detention centre - which is not to be
found on the tourist map.
rshowalter
- 09:41am Aug 8, 2001 EST (#7779
of 7787) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I've had some computer problems. But some time to think, too.
Because of my own background, I've stayed clear of peace
activists -- I'm not sure I've actually talked to one, discussing
disarmament, face to face, for thirty years. When I first got
involved with this thread, and since, I've been trying to work
"through channels" -- and adress problems of how to get out of the
current nuclear terror.
Over the weekend, I spent a couple of days with activists
associated with nukewatch. http://www.nukewatch.com/
It was a fascinating experience.
I'm not a pacifist, but I will be watching much more closely what
peace organizations do, and trying to communicate with them.
rshowalter
- 10:03am Aug 8, 2001 EST (#7780
of 7787) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
U.S., Russian Defense Officials Meet By THE ASSOCIATED
PRESS http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/news/AP-US-Russia.html
"WASHINGTON (AP) -- U.S. and Russian defense
officials are meeting behind closed doors at the Pentagon to
explore the prospects for an agreement on building missile
defenses and cutting nuclear forces.
" The talks, which began Tuesday and were
scheduled to end Wednesday, are intended to set the stage for
Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's meetings in Moscow next
week with Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov.
" The Pentagon announced Tuesday that Rumsfeld,
accompanied by Gen. Henry H. Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, and Undersecretary of State John Bolton, will leave
Saturday. It will be Rumsfeld's first trip to Moscow since he
became defense secretary in January.
" The administration hopes to make an
accommodation soon with the Russians on missile defense because,
on its current schedule, the Pentagon is due to come in conflict
with legal restrictions in a matter of months. In the spring, the
Pentagon may start construction at Fort Greely, Alaska, of
underground silos for missile interceptors.
" A Pentagon spokesman, Rear Adm. Craig
Quigley, said he could not discuss Tuesday's talks except to say
they pertained to issues of missile defense and ways to reduce
offensive nuclear forces. He said Rumsfeld did not participate,
except to attend a Pentagon luncheon for the Russian
delegation.
" ``We're really trying to figure this out on a
different way to look at the relationship between our two
countries,'' Quigley said.
" The Bush administration is committed to
developing and deploying a nationwide defense against long-range
missiles, but has yet to persuade Moscow to scrap or amend the
1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty that prohibits such defenses.
The Russians' position has been that breaching the ABM treaty
would unravel the entire fabric of arms control, including
treaties reducing offensive nuclear forces.
" At their summit meeting in Italy last month,
Bush and Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed to discuss the
ABM treaty and missile defense issues in the context of additional
cuts in nuclear forces.
" This week's talks at the Pentagon are
intended to provide the Russians with additional details on the
U.S. approach, Quigley said. Rumsfeld said last week, however,
that the administration was not yet prepared to tell the Russians
exactly how much it would be willing to reduce the U.S. nuclear
arsenal. The Pentagon is in the midst of a comprehensive review of
nuclear force levels and strategy.
" Leading the Russian delegation at the
Pentagon was Col. Gen. Yuri Baluyevsky, first deputy chief of the
general staff. Quigley said there were nine others in the Russian
delegation. The U.S. side was led by Douglas Feith, the under
secretary of defense for policy, who was an arms negotiations
policy aide at the Pentagon during President Reagan's second
term.
" The talks Tuesday and Wednesday were
scheduled to last a total of 18 hours, Quigley said.
" In remarks to reporters last Friday, Rumsfeld
indicated he expected no breakthrough in this week's talks, which
he described as ``an exchange of information more than an exchange
of views.''
" Rumsfeld said there are psychological
barriers to creating a new security relationship with Russia.
" ``There is an awful lot of baggage left over
in the relationship, the old relationship, the Cold War
relationship between the United States and the Soviet Union,'' he
said.
" ``It is baggage that exists in people's
minds, it exists in treaties, it exists in the structure of
relationships, the degree of formality of them,'' he added. ``And
it will require, I think, some time to work through these things
and see if we can't set the relationship on a different
basis.''
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