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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 07:48am Jul 31, 2001 EST (#7635
of 7772) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
On February 21 I wrote this, and I'm modifying it a little and
setting it down here, because I think it connects sharply with
problems before us. Some of the passages cited summarize very hard
work that Dawn Riley and I have done together beginning in July of
last year. MD741 rshowalter
2/21/01 3:44pm
The problems of "paradigm conflict" - systematically different
views of the same facts, from different human groups, seems evident
in nuclear defense. We and the Russians do not see eye to eye -- and
the differences can be garish and dangerous. We need to acknowledge
that these differences are real, try to resolve some of them, and
endeavor to live with the others. (There's been some progress making
these differences more clear, on this thread.)
Dawn Riley and I have done a great deal of work getting a better
understanding of paradigm conflict than we believe existed before. I
feel it is directly relevant to the problems of nuclear policy (and
issues of military balances) - which are in a state of dangerous
paradigm conflict impasse.
Paradigm Shift .... whose getting there? .... Summary http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7726f/360
Paradigm Shift#300 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?13@@.ee7726f/354
......... and especially a distinguished article about
bureaucratic frustration, and chain breakers A Lost Cause .....
by John Kay http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/highlights/essay_kay_lostcause/index.html
CHECKING is an essential, difficult issue in paradigm conflicts:
Especially where power relations are involved, checking must be
MORALLY FORCING http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?13@@.ee7726f/369
Specialized institutional responses to the impasse problem may
be needed. An approach is suggested in http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?13@@.ee7726f/365
that connects to an argument I made in Science In the News 381-383)
rshowalt
"Science in the News" 1/4/00 7:43am
If some basic facts could be checked, especially about the
existence and dynamics of mistrust between our nation states, the
problems of nuclear terror, and related issues of missile defense
and military balances, may find solutions of disciplined beauty.
The requirements of that checking are small compared to the
stakes, but they may, given the barriers, involve some institutional
responses. There have to be ways to get things to closure.
lunarchick
- 08:22am Jul 31, 2001 EST (#7636
of 7772) lunarchick@www.com
The
Hubble Wars
complexity - http://www.exhibit-services.com/
A Beginner's Primer on the Investigation of Forensic Evidence ~
http://www.scientific.org/tutorials/articles/kruglick/kruglick.html
Tainting Evidence - http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/k/kelly-evidence.html
Mission Statement http://www.enterprisemission.com/mission.html
lunarchick
- 08:30am Jul 31, 2001 EST (#7637
of 7772) lunarchick@www.com
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~lawf0013/MTlectures9-10.htm
Right accent - Irish Therefore conviction - long prison
sentence Satisfied popular need - at that time Court of
Appeal overturned the conviction of the Birmingham Six
lunarchick
- 08:37am Jul 31, 2001 EST (#7638
of 7772) lunarchick@www.com
http://www.dromo.com/fusionanomaly/flow.gif
http://www.dromo.com/fusionanomaly/alberteinstein.html
"A human being is part of the Whole...He
experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something
separated from the rest...a kind of optical delusion of his
consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us,
restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few
persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves from
this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all
living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty.
Nobody is able to achieve this completely, but the
striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the
liberation and a foundation for inner security." - Albert Einstein
lunarchick
- 08:52am Jul 31, 2001 EST (#7639
of 7772) lunarchick@www.com
Oz: Scientific Evidence - wasn't: Dingo-baby-case http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00002E22E.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0094924
rshowalter
- 08:54am Jul 31, 2001 EST (#7640
of 7772) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Sometimes, the broad need for human good and safety can be
achieved by focusing tightly on narrow, key facts.
There are issues of engineering --- about controls, about
equations, about the way computer programs get slower and slower
with increasing complexity -- that may be uninteresting in isolation
-- but that bear on wider points.
The entire missile defense program, considered as a whole, with
few relatively unimportant exceptions, is fraudulent at the levels
military conduct takes - and the responsible people involved have to
know it. And the fraudulent nature of missile defense is part of a
military-industrial complex that is now, and has long been, corrupt,
incompetent in crucial ways, and murderous.
For the safety of the world, and the honor of the United States,
certain facts, some "too detailed" from many other points of view,
matter a great deal.
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