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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 08:04am Jul 25, 2001 EST (#7404
of 7411) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Koko
lunarchick
- 08:10am Jul 25, 2001 EST (#7405
of 7411) lunarchick@www.com
Showalter - NO: wrongly attributed :
Here's a work of art, by Dawn. ... MD691-692 edevershed 2/16/01
1:26am
lunarchick
- 08:14am Jul 25, 2001 EST (#7406
of 7411) lunarchick@www.com
WRT public v
politicians (UK)
rshowalter
- 08:15am Jul 25, 2001 EST (#7407
of 7411) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Still a work of art. ... MD691-692 edevershed
2/16/01 1:26am
rshowalter
- 08:16am Jul 25, 2001 EST (#7408
of 7411) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Re Koko
MD6559 lunarchick
7/4/01 8:27pm . . MD6561 rshowalter
7/4/01 8:35pm MD6562 lunarchick
7/4/01 8:37pm . . . MD6564 rshowalter
7/4/01 8:39pm MD6566 rshowalter
7/4/01 8:44pm . . . MD6569 rshowalter
7/4/01 8:50pm
Stanley Milgrams experiment ought to be required
reading for all trying to form judgements about the probable
"rationality" of our current nuclear arrangements. http://www.cba.uri.edu/Faculty/dellabitta/mr415s98/EthicEtcLinks/Milgram.htm
Key references gathered by Dawn Riley: .. MD695-697 rshowalter
2/17/01 5:41am
lunarchick
- 08:25am Jul 25, 2001 EST (#7409
of 7411) lunarchick@www.com
Showalter, be sure to check out PBS *MD* link lunarchick
7/25/01 6:12am
rshowalter
- 08:28am Jul 25, 2001 EST (#7410
of 7411) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Will do it now -- but I'll post this first.
rshowalter
- 08:29am Jul 25, 2001 EST (#7411
of 7411) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD6559 lunarchick
7/4/01 8:50pm MD6570-79 rshowalter
7/4/01 8:54pm
I wonder if there's a single engineer, with a PE
ticket to lose, who'd be willing to take me on about guidance --
especially with some other engineers, who I could round up on very
short notice, checking work.
The "missile sheild" has no clothes.
As I said in postings you can find searching
"shuck" -- the Bush administrations' missile defense proposals
are, in H.L. Menken's phrase . . . " as devoid of merit as a
herringfish is of fur. "
Koko doesn't look as if she'd want to go around
'hitting out' at everything in sight .. she's more the cognitional
striker as per Rodin http://www.clemusart.com/graphics/museum/collect/photo/steichen.jpg
I bet Koko knows that plenty of things are
impossible, or not worth doing. . . . Does gisterme ?
It's like 'brains' are actually an inbuilt MD
system ... perhaps folks should dust 'em down and exercise out
using their own cognitive gym ... then with a vocab of 1000 words
even, as per Koko, the use of missiles just wouldn't add up - not
even in monkey logic :)
A big thing is that monkeys have enough sense to
want to see things. People, being more "advanced" -- accept
really far-fetched stories, that may "sound good" --
without any evidence at all.
And sometimes, all it takes to get by with an
outrage, is to conceal the most basic visual information. Bob
Kerrey made that point in ARMED TO EXCESS http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/02/opinion/02KERR.html
Kerrey says: .. " The risk of a nuclear attack
still poses the greatest single threat to our survival." . ...
partly because the military won't even let people in Congress see
the most basic evidence. . . If they saw it, they'd see, even a
monkey could see, that we'd gotten ourselves into a grossly
disproportionate, ugly mess.
I wonder what would happen if Senators and
Congressman asked to see evidence of what the "Star
Wars" program, after more than sixty billion dollars actually
had and could actually do ?
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