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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 08:20pm Jul 17, 2001 EST (#7148
of 7168) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
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To clean up the messes left by the Cold War, and make better
security possible, communication has to happen between the
staffs of nation states. This thread is built as an example
of what would be required to meet the needs of this staffed
communication.
Both gisterme and I have agreed that "missile defense" --
even as a "potempkin village" never deployed, would be
worthwhile if it decentered a previously frozen situation, and led
to a workable , big reduction of world risks and military problems.
That's still true - but for results to be peaceful -- rather than
force a new arms race -- the Bush administration has to act in ways
that make real peace possible, for the real people involved, in the
situation as it is.
lunarchick
- 10:35pm Jul 17, 2001 EST (#7149
of 7168) lunarchick@www.com
Potemkin:
Twirling DNA
this word - potemkin
- awakened it!
~ Film 1925 Battleship
Potemkin In a 1958 survey of film historians, POTEMKIN was
chosen as the best film of all time; and in international surveys of
film directors and of film critics through the years, it has
continued to rank in the top six of the greatest films ever made.
NOTES: The film is based upon an actual incident in 1905, but
certain liberties were taken with the facts to make the film a more
powerful patriotic and visual statement.
REVIEWS: New York Times. Variety: December 8, 1926, p. 17.
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~ "I overdosed in Central and South America. When a media
representative from Alabama asked me how things were in Panama, I
quoted a senior US Southern Command official who alluded to
Potemkin's false images built to convince Catherine the Great that
the conquered people were happy to be under her auspices: "Nothing
is as it seems in Panama," I said. Those words produced a
tremendous backlash of administrative displeasure when they
appeared back home in a wire service story and attributed to me.
George Bush, whose war of information was the one in which I had
been engaged, was a candidate for President of the United States.
Although, given his own gift for real faux paux, I would have
thought he/his supporters should have been a bit more
understanding. I forever lost the power
of the public forum. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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~ As a Star Wars Ship: http://members.aol.com/USFSierra/Akira.gif
http://members.aol.com/USFSierra/akira2.gif
http://members.aol.com/USFSierra/bridgevu.gif
And those
who served.
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~ A query re spelling Potemkin/Potempkin here.
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http://www.britannica.com/search?query=potemkin%20&ct=eb
" exaggeration in all his enterprises. He spared neither men, money,
nor himself in attempting to carry out a gigantic scheme for the
colonization of the Ukrainian steppe; but he never calculated the
cost, and most of the plan had to be abandoned when but half
accomplished. Even so, Catherine's tour of the south in 1787 was a
triumph for Potemkin, for he disguised all the weak points of his
administration—hence the apocryphal tale of his erecting artificial
villages to be seen by the empress in passing. (“Potemkin village”
came to denote any pretentious facade designed to cover up a shabby
or undesirable condition.) "
lunarchick
- 10:49pm Jul 17, 2001 EST (#7150
of 7168) lunarchick@www.com
Ah! Enlightenment ... had i been over
25 i would have known this .... so the difference between Bwsh
and Don
Quixote is simply this - in the latter case the Windmills were
real -- the King of Spain should have told him!
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