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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 10:51am Jul 15, 2001 EST (#7048
of 7054) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
fine source of declassified documents and analysis: the
National Security Archive: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/
U.S. POLICY IN GUATEMALA, 1966-1996 http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB11/docs
contains chilling documents, with summaries worth noticing, set out
in MD6341-42 rshowalter
6/30/01 3:07pm
MD6343 rshowalter
6/30/01 3:19pm
Thomas Friedman's phrase
" I have no doubt that Kissinger is as cynical,
mean and nasty a bureaucratic infighter and player of the game of
nations as his most venomous critics have charged. At times, he
can make Machiavelli sound like one of the Sisters of Mercy."
can't have been meant lightly, when one considers what
Kissinger's critics have charged.
We should fix the ugly parts of US foreign policy and military
function.
We should know what there is to fix -- and not have US
representatives continue to act in ways that produce agony, and
increase our danger.
MD5784-5787 rshowalter
6/22/01 1:05pm sets out Henry Kissinger on Trial: A Guide to
the Controversy Surrounding the Diplomat from the Encyclopedia
Britannica web site --February 2001
MD5870 rshowalter
6/22/01 8:41pm asks this thread's Bush administration stand
in :
" gisterme , have you read the references
collected in Britannica's KISSINGER ON TRIAL piece? . . .
" Really read them?
" Don't they set out unfortunate circumstances?
" Isn't it reasonable that we try to do better?
We have to.
MD6345 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?14@184.vzCsaIUQrJA^4869540@.f0ce57b/6808...
MD6346 lunarchick
6/30/01 4:20pm MD6347 lunarchick
6/30/01 4:58pm ... MD6348 rshowalter
6/30/01 5:27pm MD6349 rshowalter
6/30/01 5:48pm ....
rshowalter
- 10:56am Jul 15, 2001 EST (#7049
of 7054) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Missile Defense 30 Years Ago -- Deja Vu all over again? Edited
by William Burr December 18, 2000 http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB36/
MD6357 rshowalter
6/30/01 7:52pm
The technical problems with missile defense have been known for a
long time -- and haven't changed.
Can "smart rocks" work, on easy enough targets, as a stunt?
Yes.
But nothing of military use could be done 30 years ago, and the
basic reasons haven't changed.
rshowalter
- 11:07am Jul 15, 2001 EST (#7050
of 7054) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Postings MD6857-61 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?7@184.vzCsaIUQrJA^4869540@.f0ce57b/7439
contain these points.
I've been very scared, for a long time -- and
since Bush was elected, things have gone so surreally wrong that
I've felt there was nothing to do but stand. Because I've felt
that the treasonous low-lifes who've subverted the United States
and stolen the presidency were not only corrupt -- but also
incompetent enough that they could easily destroy the world.
If I were an ordinary, honest Republican - I might
be the most concerned of all
In MD 6809 . I asked a question -- " What have I said that is
not in the national interest? " I still think that's a good
question -- and I believe I've been serving the national interest to
high standards.
gisterme replied. .... Eventually - gisterme conceded a key
point -- that the technical possibilities and probabilities
connected to classified work can be evaluated in term of open
literature knowledge in the United States. That means that
stamping something "CLASSIFIED" is not a license to commit limitless
fraud.
I'm prepared to go forward with much of that checking, on missile
defense, and many of the basic facts, including the fact that it is
easy to immunize a missile or warhead from lasar damage, are
in this thread. http://www.phy.davidson.edu/jimn/Java/Coatings.htm
I've suggested that gisterme represents this
administration, and could not write as extensively as gisterme does,
without the knowledge and backing of the very highest levels of the
Bush administration. That's my opinion. I think it is a reasonable
opinion, amounting by now to an overwhelming probability -- and I
think that many other people, looking at the circumstances, might
form the same opinion.
This .....can be checked. I'm prepared to submit to checking on
anything I've said on this thread.
The administration's missile defense initiative is a massive
fraud, and I can't see how anyone in the Bush administration control
group can escape knowing it.
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