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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?


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rshowalter - 09:26am Jul 13, 2001 EST (#6993 of 7001) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Great links! The PBS web page on Missile Defense is impressive -- how powerful television can be -- and how the memory of the web enhances it! http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/military/nmd_splash.html

Senator Levin was impressive last night. Undersecretary Wolfowitz was clear, and said interesting things.

I disagree with much that Wolfowitz said, at the level of balance and priority, for reasons discussed at length on this thread, especially with gisterme , our stand-in representative for the Bush administration.

For reasons discussed in detail here, and not effectively disputed, the shield being proposed has a vanishingly small chance of working effectively.

The effort to make a shield, which has consumed, as I hear on PBS, something like a hundred billion dollars over forty years with astonishly little workable output, is certain to continue to be terribly expensive, wasting chances, and closing off reasonable hopes in the military equivalent of the emperor's new clothes.

The missile shield proposed, in the terribly unlikely even it could be made to work, is, as Senator Levin explained deployed against barely credible threats , ignoring much larger threats.

The missile shield, in development according to the patterns of the Bush admiistration, is setting up an environment for a new arms race, and for new anger and violence - increasing the danger of the world.

But it is also clear that the administration, though it may be committed, whenever it matters, to the needs of the military industrial complex, also has other things in mind.

Undersecretary Wolfowitz ended the PBS discussion with Levin last night with this:

" What is certain is that we want to move as quickly as possible to build an entirely different structure with Russian. Not one that is build on maintaining the mutual balance of terror, but one that is based on mutual security interests."

To actually do that - we have to deal with facts , and matters of proportion and feelings as they are.

As of now, if that is what it wants, the Bush administration has to be much more perceptive than it has been -- for it is, much too often, defeating, and acting strongly against, that vital purpose.

lunarchick - 09:33am Jul 13, 2001 EST (#6994 of 7001)
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French Missile on take-off with Observers.

rshowalter - 09:50am Jul 13, 2001 EST (#6995 of 7001) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Repubicans, and members of the Bush administration, ought to read a wonderful piece in Fortune , which is plainly not a left wing magazine.

BIRNBAUM ON WASHINGTON ..Wheres W? The big question in Washington: How did Bush go so wrong so fast? .......FORTUNE.COM Thursday, July 12, 2001 By Jeffrey H. Birnbaum

" Official Washington wants to know not What Happened to Chandra Levy, but What Happened to President Bush? How did the new CEO in town go so wrong so fast? "

It seems to me that the answer is sad, but clear. When it is time to look at facts, and come to a balanced decision, the Bush administration is acting in systematically ugly ways. Working, again and again -- against the reasonable, the beautiful, and the sane.

lunarchick - 09:57am Jul 13, 2001 EST (#6996 of 7001)
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The Human Development Report was cited several times by Nobel Peace Prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi in a videotaped opening keynote address at the NGO Forum on 31 August. She singled out the 1994 report for noting that human security is not one of weapons -- "it is a concern with human life and dignity." She also highlighted the report's call for empowerment, "development by the people and not only for them." She added, "And people include women who make up at least half of the world's population." ~ gopher://gopher.undp.org:70/00/unconfs/women/conf/rep/13160913 gopher://gopher.undp.org/1/unconfs/women/conf/rep

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