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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 05:05pm Jul 11, 2001 EST (#6935
of 6939) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
With all the government involvement possible, from all the
nations concerned, and with "shadow" governments set up when the
government in power did not participate.
. For instance, a "shadow US government" for
this purpose might have an ex President, an ex Secretary of State,
ex head of the CIA, and several former chairmen of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff, in addition to other distinguished people. Some
signatories to an appeal of last year might be available, if the
effort was serious. MD374 rshowalt
10/4/00 5:08am
If this involved "secret talks" it would be unworkable. But if
everything was open, it ought to be workable.
MD960 rshowalter
3/12/01 2:47pm ... starts:
Here are questions, well suited to large
journalistic organizations which, if well answered, could
facilitate the practical jobs peace might take. The answers would
also be the basis for good stories from a journalistic point of
view. No doubt there are many other good questions. I offer these
as examples.
MD962 rshowalter
3/12/01 2:51pm .... starts:
Plainly, this might seem like "play acting" -- but
it would serve a quite practical purpose -- getting the needs of
disarmament coherent enough to pursue.
Once these questions were answered, it would be much harder for
objectors to say "we can't do it" without giving coherent reasons.
The sort of reasons they now lack, and don't feel obligated to
set forward.
In this thread, dialog with the "Putin stand in"
almarst has gone far enough for a very conditional but clear
acceptance of the idea of full nuclear disarmament (of course, on
this thread's play acting basis) for "Russia."
In a sense "only play acting."
But I believe the facts and arguments traced in this thread are
among the facts and arguments that the real nation states would have
to trace through for accomodation.
Having these facts set out on the internet, for all to see, with
the public aware, would make for logical stability, and the building
of consensus in an area where building confidence is very important,
and disagreements have to be faced, and dealt with, rather than
hidden.
Could we get from where we are on this thread now, to this
broader and more open effort. It would take some money, some
staffing, and some open support from some world leaders.
Would journalistic organizations, journalists, and others be
interested in such a thing. My gues is, with credible support, they
might.
We've learned enough about internet formats, here and elsewhere,
that I'm sure it could be done -- and we might get some things to
closure that would never be possible otherwise.
rshowalter
- 05:11pm Jul 11, 2001 EST (#6936
of 6939) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Objectively, if we could just get some matters clarified, we
aren't so very far from conditions that would permit a much more
peaceful world.
Getting those issues clarified might be possible with wide
involvement, perhaps including one of Rupert Murdoch's papers, or
Fox News
The Red-State Network: How Fox News Conquered Bush Country --
and Toppled CNN by MARSHALL SELLA http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/24/magazine/24FOXNEWS.html
Including, indeed, journalistic organizations of all persuasions
-- setting information out in a format where people could look at
much, if not all, of the credible data -- and draw
conclusions by matching.
rshowalter
- 05:24pm Jul 11, 2001 EST (#6937
of 6939) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
This thread could be "mined" for a lot of stuff -- but the
transition could be made to mainline journalism -- on several
continents. With enough breadth to provide protection for
journalistic organizations that sometimes feel some need of it.
Perhaps with some university involvement.
Contact from a few world leaders to some place like the NYU
CENTER FOR WAR, PEACE, AND THE NEWS MEDIA http://www.nyu.edu/cwpnm/ might
get some active, inspired, and well connected responses.
rshowalter
- 07:19pm Jul 11, 2001 EST (#6938
of 6939) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
From time to time, I set out directories and summaries of this
thread, because it is extensive ... MD6837 rshowalter
7/10/01 10:13am ... MD6838 rshowalter
7/10/01 10:13am MD6839 rshowalter
7/10/01 10:14am ...
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