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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 12:14pm Jul 10, 2001 EST (#6845
of 6861) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
""North Korea has a very modest facility ... more of a missile
proving ground, like White Sands out of 1946, not Vandenberg
[Air Force Base] or the Kennedy Space Center," said Tim Brown,
senior analyst for Globalsecurity.org. The White Sands Proving
Ground was established in New Mexico at the tail end of World War II
by the U.S. military to test new weapons' systems.
Short-Range Weapons
No other nation on the "rogue" list has fielded a
missile with a range greater than 900 miles, according to U.S.
officials.
Pakistan has the Ghauri missile, which it bought
from North Korea and renamed for a Muslim king who invaded
Pakistan's archrival India. Iran has yet to test any missile with
a range greater than 600 miles.
Libya has only Scud-B missiles with ranges of 180
miles, and Iraq is limited by U.N. sanctions to missiles with
ranges no greater than 90 miles.
Although Baghdad is believed to have hid Scud
missiles from weapons inspectors, none have ranges greater than
540 miles. Development programs in each of those states is aimed
at incremental increases in range, officials say.
"Two of the missiles - the Pakistani Ghauri and the Iranian
Shehab - are derivatives of North Korea's No-Dong missiles,
which Pyongyang has sold and transported by both ship and cargo
aircraft to buyer nations.
""One question is how reliable these systems would be," said
Globalsecurity's Brown. "Putting a crude rudimentary system in
operation without doing a lot of testing is risky. Military generals
want a lot of testing. The question is, is this a serious military
program or a terrorist program where you wouldn't necessarily have a
lot of testing?"
"The United States fears that North Korea could ultimately
sell the longer range missiles it has under development as well.
Still, because of geography, even if the Pakistanis or Iranians
bought a North Korean missile and wanted to aim at the United States
instead of one of their neighbors, neither is close enough to to
strike even Alaska.
'Rogue' threat? -- Missile ranges fall short of U.S.
shores
Iran Scud C: 300 miles, Status-deployed Shehab-3:
600 miles, Status-tested Shehab-4: 900 miles, Status-in
development Distance to US -- 5,400 miles (Alaska), 7,200 miles
(Mainland)
Libya Scud B: 180 miles, Status-deployed Distance
to US -- 7,200 miles (Alaska), 9,000 miles (Mainland)
Iraq Ababil-100: 60 miles, Status-deployed
al-Samoud: 90 miles, Status-tested al-Hussein: 360 miles,
Status-forbidden, possibly hidden al-Abbas: 540 miles,
Status-forbidden, possibly hidden "Distance to US from Iraq --
5,400 miles (Alaska), 7,800 miles (Mainland)
North Korea
Scud B: 180 miles, Status-deployed Scud C: 300
miles, Status-deployed No Dong: 600 miles, Status-tested Taepo
Dong 1: 900+ miles, Status-tested Taepo Dong2: 3,600 miles,
Status-in development Distance to US -- 2,400 miles (Alaska),
4,800 miles (Mainland) Pakistan Shaheen: 180 miles,
Status-deployed Tarmuk: 180 miles, Status-deployed Ghauri: 900
miles, Status-deployed Distance to US from N. Korea-- 4,800 miles
(Alaska), 6,600 miles (Mainland)
"Note: Distances to the US are calculated over the pole or
west to east. Flying east to west, even though shorter in some
cases, is inefficient since the missiles would be flying against the
rotation of the earth, lengthening the flight.
Robert Windrem is an investigative producer for NBC News.
(thanks Carl Page: MD64
rshowalter
- 12:27pm Jul 10, 2001 EST (#6846
of 6861) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
(thanks Carl Page: MD6404 carlp
7/2/01 1:59pm .. )
How many members of the general public would understand the
now very moderate or nonexistent nature of the "rogue
threat" ?
Are these countries beyond conventional deterrance? Have we no
other ways of dealing, by diplomatic means, or by military means
coordinated with responsible nations, with these threats? That's a
question that was pointedly asked of Secretary Rumsfeld -- without
any sensible response, by Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island ...
Skeptical Senators Question Rumsfeld on Missile Defense by
JAMES DAO http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/22/politics/22MILI.html
MD6764 smartalix
7/8/01 10:48am is exactly on target -- and raises a key question
-- as he has again and again, that gisterme has ignored, for
want, I suspect, of any reasonable answer.
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