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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 07:22am Jul 8, 2001 EST (#6757
of 6759) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
If you want to see an artist at work, and see the power of the
internet, coming into flower -- look at the postings Dawn has just
above. They are both beautiful, and powerful, and examples of how
the internet can send messages as well as print- at the first level
- but with access to a world-wide depth that is new and
powerful.
The world is changing, and lies, and police state patterns, so
common, in the ways that count, not only in Russia, but in the
United States, are getting harder to sustain.
China has its press bent to a "culture of lying" -- though it
sometimes knows the truth very well -- and uses force to destroy
peoples' lives -- to supress ideas in ways that work.
In large measure (but not completely!) that happens in the United
States, too, where we have our press, bent to a "culture of lying"
-- and force destroys peoples' lives, and suppresses ideas in ways
that work.
globalization , with the internet, is changing the world,
and making ideas judged by people interested in them,
wherever they may be -- more and more powerful.
What Is the Next Big Idea? Buzz is Growing for Empire by
Emily Eakin http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/07/arts/07IDEA.html?pagewanted=all
The most basic threat to human rights of all --- the most basic
degradation of humanity that has ever been -- is nuclear weapons.
And whole organizations, dedicated to mass murder -- disciplined to
take it lightly -- have taken control of enormous resources -- and
set up patterns where even Congress, without questioning them much,
meekly gives them whatever they ask for.
But the world is changing, and the enormous fraud, the enormous
boondoggle, the enormous shuck of missile defense as this
administration and the mic is pushing it -- is becoming vulnerable.
rshowalter
- 07:30am Jul 8, 2001 EST (#6758
of 6759) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
We are now at a point where high tech weaponry -- properly
understood, is becoming obsolete --- yea, ridiculous -- before even
early prototypes are built. For now, not before many billions of
dollars, sorely needed elsewhere, are wasted.
But the depth of intellectual and moral corruption in the
military industrial complex, and its representatives so ably
represented here by gisterme is becoming clear. These people
cannot be trusted on issues where it matters -- not only because of
their moral failings -- their committments to patterns that "make
Machiavelli seem like one of the Angels of Mercy" but also
because of their gross technical incompetence --and their
inability to check even the most basic things on which they
are asking us to spend huge amounts of money and risk our
lives.
(The corpus of gisterme here bears reading -- it could not
possibly be occurring without the knowledge, approval, and backing,
of the highest levels of the Bush administration)
rshowalter
- 07:43am Jul 8, 2001 EST (#6759
of 6759) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
China knows better than to do what she's doing on human
rights -- and sometimes that is clear.
MD5523 rshowalter
6/20/01 11:02am links to an article from China's flagship
newspaper that makes points that China herself needs to remember,
and that Russia, the US, and other nations should, too.
" Daring to Shoulder Historical Responsibility:
Way to Become Big Political Power" http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200104/18/eng20010418_67992.html
China sometimes violates the good advice in that article
horribly, many times in the suppresson of human rights, and also in
not facing up to its past in an ugly case, as in the situation set
out in
WHEN LIES KILL: In China, the Right to Truth Meets Life and
Death by ERIK ECKHOLM http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/17/weekinreview/17ECKH.html
On human rights, and on the suppression of ideas, directly and
indirectly, China knows better than it does, and we
should, too.
Sometimes the truth is "somehow, too weak" MD4528 rshowalter
6/5/01 9:48pm .. but it can gain strength, with effort, and that
is becoming much more true, because the internet can so much
strengthen the power of one. http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sdc/tank-1.jpg
We need to overcome Chain Breakers ... http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/618
We are in ugly situations where honesty and hard work are needed
- so we can achieve a reframing, a Secular Redemption http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?13@@.ee79f4e/619
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