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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 07:42am Jul 6, 2001 EST (#6662
of 6668) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Interesting posts from gisterme. I've got a full day ahead
of me, after a full, pleasant day yesterday. While I'm getting some
things organized, and savoring the situation, I'd like to repeat the
following posts, especially because of what has been posted here
since.
MD6641rshowalter
7/5/01 12:21pm .... MD6642 rshowalter
7/5/01 12:29pm MD6643 rshowalter
7/5/01 12:46pm
I'd also like to refer again to a string of postings, on
September 25th 2000 from an all day (more than eight hour) meeting
between me and a ranking and well informed representative of the
United States government.that started with the proposal of
MD266 rshowalt
9/25/00 7:32am .... MD267 rshowalt
9/25/00 7:33am MD268 rshowalt
9/25/00 7:35am .... MD269 rshowalt
9/25/00 7:36am
and ended with an offer of mine, MD304 rshowalt
9/25/00 5:28pm .
That offer still stands.
rshowalter
- 08:07am Jul 6, 2001 EST (#6663
of 6668) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD5993 rshowalter
6/25/01 1:05pm
Some might like MD5994 rshowalter
6/25/01 1:05pm especially - it has a quote worth remembering,
from a fine detective story writer.
Here's a comment on things that are hard to do, if not
impossible. MD5995 rshowalter
6/25/01 1:30pm
I know a guy who juggles well. He does other very hard things
well also. But he can't do these hard things, all at the same time.
How many "breakthrough miracles" of technology can DOD get to
work, in the same system, all at the same time?
It is worth remembering how competent they aren't and what their
leadership clearly does not understand - when asking the question.
rshowalter
- 10:27am Jul 6, 2001 EST (#6664
of 6668) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD6000 smartalix
6/25/01 2:52pm cites an excellent article -- important enough to
issues of deception and lying by the administration -- discussed
here on this thread, that I'm posting it in full, with some bolding
for emphasis, and some comments.
June 25, 2001 Pentagon Study Casts Doubt on Missile Defense
Schedule By JAMES DAO http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/25/politics/25MISS.html
"WASHINGTON, June 24 — An internal Defense Department study
concluded last year that testing on the national missile defense
program was behind schedule and unrealistic and had suffered too
many failures to justify deploying the system in 2005, a year after
the Bush administration is considering deploying one.
"The August 2000 report from the Pentagon's Office of
Operational Test and Evaluation, only recently released to Congress,
offers new details about problems the Pentagon has encountered in
developing antimissile technology. And it raises questions about how
quickly an effective system can be made operational.
"The Pentagon is studying proposals to deploy a limited system
— but one that would violate the 1972 Antiballistic Missile Treaty —
as soon as 2004. In recent weeks, Secretary of Defense Donald H.
Rumsfeld has indicated a willingness to deploy a system before tests
have been completed if an attack seems imminent.
"But as an example of unrealistic testing, the report cited an
October 1999 test in which a Global Positioning System inside a mock
warhead helped guide an intercept missile toward a target over the
Pacific. That test was successful, but two more recent flight tests
failed.
"None of those tests used the kinds of sophisticated decoys
that a real ballistic missile would use to confuse an antimissile
system, the report said. Instead, the decoy in each test was a large
balloon that did not look like a warhead and that the kill vehicle's
sensors could easily distinguish from the target.
"The report also asserted that the Pentagon had not even
scheduled a test involving multiple targets, the likely situation in
an attack. And it found software problems with a training
simulator that made it appear as if twice as many warheads had been
fired at the United States as had been intended in a 1999
exercise.
"The simulator then fired interceptors at those "phantom
tracks," and operators were unable to override it, the report
said.
"The report, which President Bill Clinton read just before
deferring initial construction on a missile system last September,
acknowledged that the program was still in its early stages and was
progressing well on some fronts. But it concluded that unless
testing was significantly accelerated, at significantly higher cost,
the program would not be ready for use against real attacks for
several years.
"Deployment means the fielding of an operational system with
some military utility which is effective under realistic combat
conditions," the report states. "Such a capability is yet to be
shown to be practicable for NMD," or national missile defense.
"Officials with the Pentagon's Ballistic Missile Defense
Organization disputed parts of the report, saying that the Global
Positioning System used in the 1999 test did not guide the kill
vehicle to the target. They also contended that the simulator did
not fire at "phantom" missiles.
"They acknowledged software problems with the simulator but
said those flaws had been fixed. And they asserted that future
tests, perhaps starting next year, would involve tougher situations,
including more sophisticated decoys, multiple warheads and different
trajectories.
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