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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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gisterme
- 04:58pm Jul 5, 2001 EST (#6644
of 6649)
smartalix wrote ( smartalix
7/2/01 7:37pm ): "...The fact remains that you can train a
laser on a target, but that pesky inverse-square law that Robert
alludes to gets in the way..."
Didn't see this post before, smartalix or I would have answered
right away...
Yes, the inverse square law does apply but you need to consider
that it applies within the solid radial volume of the beam. For
example a point source like a distant star radiates all its energy
into a spherical volume, 2pi radians on each axis. With a laser
beam, like the ones we've been discussing, the energy is all
contained within the radial volume of the beam. So for a beam with a
given divergence, travelling in vacuum, you can easily calculate
what the energy/unit-area would be at any given distance. An example
I recall from one of the laser development web sites previously
posted ( gisterme
7/3/01 7:52pm ) was that a 1m diameter beam (at the source) had
a 12m diameter at 500km distance. So if the laser has a 1 Megawatt
output that means that at 500km it will deliver about 8.8kW/square
meter to whaterver gets into its beam. At double the distance it
would deliver about 1/4 as much. So at 1000 km it would deliver
about 2.2 kW/square meter. That's what the square law means. To get
a real-world idea of how much heating that is, the broiler element
in an electric oven delivers on the order of 3 kW/square meter.
That's not enough to destroy an ICBM but is enough to gather test
data or broil steaks from space. :-)
The beam divergence in the example is about 11m/500000m =>
22.0 microradians. A 0.22 microradian beam divergence (100x better
than the example and similar to HST optical performace) would give a
beam width of about 1.11m at 500km with an area of about .97 square
meters. At the same source power that would be about 1.03MW/square
meter, or about 104W/square centimeter delivered to the target. At
1000km the beam width would be about 1.22m, an area of 1.16 square
meters with about 67.2W/square centimeter delivered.
There's no reason to believe that 1MW is any sort of a physical
limit for laser power or that only a single satellite based laser
would engage a target at any time. Likewise, there's no reason to
believe that the 15-year-old optical technology used on the HST
hasn't been improved upon since that time (IF it was really the best
that could be done back then). Still, a single order of magnitude
improvement in laser output power alone (over what's published)
using optics as good as the HST would give the estimated 1 kw/square
cm energy required to destroy an ICBM booster at 500km. There would
be no need to keep that beam focused on a 1cm square point on the
rocket booster as Robert has suggested would be necessary. That's
for a nominally parallel beam. If the optics were designed to
focus the beam at a certain distance (negative divergence), at say a
few thousand kilometers, even larger energies could be delivered to
the target at that distance.
continued...
gisterme
- 04:59pm Jul 5, 2001 EST (#6645
of 6649)
gisterme
7/5/01 4:58pm continued:
Your cogitation about spinning ICBM boosters is nuts, smartalix
and verifies that you, not dirac is lacking in knowledge.
During the boost phase the rockets don't travel in a straight line.
ICBMs need to use a navigation system, usually inertial, based on
gyro stabilized platforms, to guide their payload onto a very
specific trajectory for release; they use vectored thrust to
accomplish this. In addition, the launch platform for MIRVs would be
severly challenged if it were spinning since it must launch each of
the MIRVs onto a very specific DIFFERENT trajectory after separation
from the booster. Spinning gyro-stabilized platforms just won't cut
it, smartalix. You need to go to your local library and check out a
high-school physics book. Read about gyroscopes...
Forget armor plate if you want the ICBM to have any payload to
speak of. Adding something like the tiles used on the space shuttle
to an existing ICBM would greatly reduce its range and payload,
meaning less bombs and less decoys. Tiles should be far more
effective and lighter than the titanium armor you suggested. That's
a non-starter unless much more powerful ICBM boosters were designed
and built. Not a project that N. Korea, Iraq or Iran could likely
afford or hide.
Mirrored surfaces on the booster might have some effect on a
laser attack but making the surface of an ICBM THAT reflective at
the wavelenghth of the laser would probably be more challenging than
building all the rest of the ICBM. The entire surface of the rocket
would have to be a telescope-quality reflector that could remain so
while its substrate containted the huge pressures that are built up
within the rocket. That means that the rocket tube (assuming a solid
fuel rocket) could not flex AT ALL. Not likely.
WRT decoys...expense was never a consideration, smartalix,
although I'd love to see a 500 lb. gold nugget fall into my back
yard, even if it did have laser burns on it or had been clobbered by
a collision with an interceptor. :-) Still, you see my point that
THREE or even TEN targets each coming from only a few ICBMs could be
engaged during re-entry far more easily than the thousands of decoys
that could be deployed while the payload is in space. Remember, the
proposed BMD system is NOT intended to stop an attack by more than a
very few ICBMs launched simultaneously. That's why Russia or even
China shouldn't feel that their strategic strike force is rendered
usless by such a limited system. Existing ICBMs already can't be
used by any rational nation as an attack representitive of sane
national leadership. Russia and China have both got better things to
do with their limited investment capital than build bigger but
equally useless ICBMs.
Ablative material on the fat end of a re-entry vehicle would make
it much harder to destroy from below by a laser. Once the vehicle
got deep into the atmoshere, I'd guess below 200,000 feet, it would
also become hard to engage from above with a laser because it would
be engulfed in a cacoon of ionized material from the heat shield.
Above those altitudes, it would seem vulnerable to attack from above
since it's heat shield would be facing AWAY from a satellite based
laser. An overall ablative shield or mirroring would seem more
practical to protect relatively small re-entry vehicles from a laser
attack than they would be for protecting boosters. That's why
there's a need for terminal interception...just in case all the
ICBMs aren't destroyed during the boost phase. The ablative shield
or mirroring on the re-entry vehicle won't make a bit of difference
in a high-energy collision with an interceptor.
WRT aircraft based lasers. I think the aircraft would need to be
within a few hund
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