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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

lunarchick - 11:08pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6606 of 6614)
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DEALS and backers and paybacks_rewards.
Alex can usually offer insights here.

rshowalter - 11:09pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6607 of 6614)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

"We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created equal..."

ought to be an argument against the indiscriminant murder of agressive war and threats of war. A big argument against nuclear weapons.

(somebody's messing with my computer - defeating the keyboard. Shutting down for a while. )

rshowalter - 11:34pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6608 of 6614)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

MD926 rshowalter 3/11/01 5:02pm ... MD927 rshowalter 3/11/01 5:08pm

Looking at references that show the administration's missile defense programs so entirely devoid of technical merit, I'm having a very hard time not thinking about explanations that involve fraud and treason.

If anyone can show me even one of Rumsfeld's missile defense proposal that technically works on paper, I'll be very suprised, and apologize profusely.

So far, I've seen no evidence at all that anything, at a systems level military usefulness requires, works, or has any prospect of working.

I bet if Senator Levin asked some competent engineers (there are plenty of them in Michigan) -- they'd conclude the same.

gisterme -- do you have any evidence that these systems work, or can?

gisterme , are you capable of judging such evidence, yourself? Or are you taking all your positions, lawyer fashion, on trust?

What about the welfare of the United States?

lunarchick - 11:35pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6609 of 6614)
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Declaration of Independence

' ... unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness ...'

"To the man who only has a hammerin the toolkit, every problem looks like a nail." -Abraham Maslow

For creative solutions: 'When I examine myself and my methods of thought, I come to the conclusion that the gift of fantasy has meant more to me than my talent for absorbing positive knowledge.' Albert Einstein

lunarchick - 11:39pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6610 of 6614)
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$15,000 per individual in the US goes to the defence budget.
This figure would buy each person in the USA a NEW computer each year!
People thinking on how long they have to save to get a computer -
just one - to last a few years ..
might consider carefully the figure going to defence.

lunarchick - 11:46pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6611 of 6614)
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Teleco type companies producing infrastructure have met with a downturn.
Were more effort put into lifting the standards of living of people in marginal situations ... the demand for IT equipment might be stimulated.

rshowalter - 11:46pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6612 of 6614)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

The demand for all sorts of good things could be stimulated.

rshowalter - 11:46pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6613 of 6614)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

I was glad, on our Independence Day , to have a chance to post some of the things I feel are important for the welfare of the United States, and the world, in these postings, many of which include other links:

MD6549 rshowalter 7/4/01 11:38am ... MD5450 rshowalter 7/4/01 11:43am
MD6551 rshowalter 7/4/01 1:41pm ... MD6552 rshowalter 7/4/01 1:41pm
MD6553 rshowalter 7/4/01 3:28pm ... MD6554 rshowalter 7/4/01 3:46pm
MD6555 rshowalter 7/4/01 4:19pm ... MD6556 rshowalter 7/4/01 4:19pm

rshowalter - 11:48pm Jul 4, 2001 EST (#6614 of 6614)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

" When the Soviet Union fell, and everyone, on all sides, had so much hope, we didn't have an end game -- and the United States was so tied up with lies, that it could not sort out problems before it -- or help the Russians sort out their problems."

We should work to fix things now -- not go on making them worse.

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